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tdskip 08-08-2018 07:56 AM

Anyone have a clever idea on fixing this?
 
Not that uncommon of an issue but with how far down the bolt snapped it isn't going to be easy.

And tips to pass along?

Thanks!

tdskip 08-08-2018 07:58 AM

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T77911S 08-08-2018 08:03 AM

drill and use an easy out

weld a nut on top,

oh wait, you said clever, then no

Driven97 08-08-2018 08:04 AM

Does the bolt go straight through? Looks like it might, if so, use a centerpunch to make a divot and start drilling with a regular drill bit that's smaller than the shaft of the bolt. As it heats / weakens the threads it may grab the bolt and turn it right through.

tdskip 08-08-2018 08:06 AM

Ha, thanks for the response.

Will try to get a drill to get purchase on top of the bolt

pdtweeks 08-08-2018 08:36 AM

...or you could try a left-handed drill bit. Sometimes that'll back the broken part right out.

Steve F 08-08-2018 08:42 AM

Soak with PB blaster to start with for sure.

Targalid 08-08-2018 09:23 AM

Discussed on this forum in many places is the use of ATF/acetone as penetrating oil. It is certainly the best I have used. Paint it onto the bolt remnant with a small paint brush. Let soak, at least overnight, then use a left hand drill. Are you feeling lucky?

tmadden2 08-08-2018 09:25 AM

Is it flush with the metal? If you’ve even got a *little* to bite into, I’ve had some great luck with the Irwin bolt extractors.

theiceman 08-08-2018 10:04 AM

if drilling, first grind bolt flat, then hit centre with centre punch, you need to give your drill a chance to start off close to the middle.

Harpo 08-08-2018 10:08 AM

Is there only one spot weld on each end of the nut plate? If so could you drill out each spot weld? Might be easier to work on

David

paa502 08-08-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmadden2 (Post 10134998)
Is it flush with the metal? If you’ve even got a *little* to bite into, I’ve had some great luck with the Irwin bolt extractors.

I had some luck with a Milwaukee Cobalt drill bit (Home Depot) and a Irwin bolt extractor (Lowes). Certainly not clever, I only mention as I'm pretty sure my success removing a broken strut mount bolt on a daily driver was due to the specific drill bit and easy-out. It was my own Christmas Miracle in July.

I also let a soldering iron sit in the hole for five/six minutes to free-up the Loctite however dubious any actual effect.

tdskip 08-08-2018 02:59 PM

Thanks you for all the ideas and suggestions, I'm going to try to drill it tomorrow and see where I get to.

Jdub 08-08-2018 03:00 PM

A classic issue. I suggest you heat it up first, MAPP or Acet, as well as you can esp. if it is a through bolt (both ends), then take a punch and hammer and tap it sharply, This serves to break some parts of the corrosion. With the bolt still warm, douse with penetrating oil (I like Acetone and ATF), and tap a few more times. Heat it up later just for fun

Now get a good quality new drill bit and quality easy out kit and have at it. The overall philosophy here is to loosen the item as much as you can before applying the final solution. Heat is always your friend and perversely it seems applying a tightening torque to snapped bolts helps. I assume it just lets the penetrating oil get into more surface area.

Good luck you will pull this thing out.

blpetry 08-08-2018 05:47 PM

Find a piece of thin walled tube or the like slightly larger than the bolt about 1-2 inches long and use it as a guide for a drill bit that just fits inside the tube. Drill a nice divot dead center of the bolt. Then start with a 1/8 drill bit and drill it through, repeat with the next larger size until you can pick the threads out or clean it with a tap. Use oil so you don't ruin your bits and go slowly.

My non dexterous ass has done this procedure numerous times and yours looks like an excellent candidate for this procedure. Worst case you use a helicoil, but I've never had to.

Ez outs suck IMO... a great tool to replace a soft broken bolt with hardened steel!

bkreigsr 08-09-2018 07:59 AM

Where is that? - chassis seat rails?
Bill K

eastbay 08-09-2018 08:47 AM

looks like a parcel shelf screw bracket, good luck drilling without pulling the back window

hcoles 08-09-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdtweeks (Post 10134931)
...or you could try a left-handed drill bit. Sometimes that'll back the broken part right out.

do this.

Jdub 08-09-2018 12:55 PM

Holy cats if that's the parcel shelf bracket forget what I told you.

Again, good luck!

irl 08-09-2018 05:37 PM

Whatever you do, do not break the bit off in the bolt. It happens all the time for first timers. Take it slow steady pressure but don’t push so hard you start bending and break off the bit. It’s get really hard after that.


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