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VWLoosenuts 08-11-2018 11:52 AM

My Custom Made Iozzio Classic Wheels.
 
Just thought I start a new thread in my One Off Custom made Wheels.

We are calling them Iozzio Classic Lightweights

Can’t wait to get them. They should fit my project perfect.

Specs are

18x7 with 5.5” backspacing
18x9.5” with 6.0” backspacing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534013410.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534013410.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534012917.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534013107.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534013291.jpg

jac1976 08-11-2018 11:54 AM

Hmmm

Trackrash 08-11-2018 12:23 PM

Beautiful. Can't wait to see them mounted.

RocketWrench 08-11-2018 03:57 PM

I soooo want some

zedsn 08-11-2018 04:53 PM

They look great!

Bill Verburg 08-11-2018 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWLoosenuts (Post 10139008)
Just thought I start a new thread in my One Off Custom made Wheels.

They have been Named Iozzio Classics.

Can’t wait to get them. They should fit my project perfect.

Specs are

18x7 with 5.5” backspacing
18x9.5” with 6.0” backspacing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534013410.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534013410.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534012917.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534013107.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534013291.jpg

9.5 w/ 6" back space is ET19, They will fit fine w/ 255/35 or 265/35 tires, maybe 285/30

fronts are off a bit, they sit inboard too far

for a 911 7 front you want ~4.79" of back space, which works out to be 7 ET24

what you really want for an SC/Carrera is 8 Et25-30 front and 90.5 ET19 rear

VWLoosenuts 08-11-2018 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 10139249)
9.5 w/ 6" back space is ET19, They will fit fine w/ 255/35 or 265/35 tires, maybe 285/30

fronts are off a bit, they sit inboard too far

for a 911 7 front you want ~4.79" of back space, which works out to be 7 ET24

what you really want for an SC/Carrera is 8 Et25-30 front and 90.5 ET19 rear

Thank you for the information. But I had the actual owner of the manufacture company here to specifically measure offsets nd widths to my set up to my liking. And the tires you mentioned are WAY wider then I will be running.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534035975.jpg

VWLoosenuts 08-11-2018 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trackrash (Post 10139026)
Beautiful. Can't wait to see them mounted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketWrench (Post 10139189)
I soooo want some

Quote:

Originally Posted by zedsn (Post 10139221)
They look great!


Thank you very much guys. Can’t wait to get them mounted. Can’t really set up my suspension without the wheels.

Bill Verburg 08-11-2018 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWLoosenuts (Post 10139283)
Thank you for the information. But I had the actual owner of the manufacture company here to specifically measure offsets nd widths to my set up to my liking. And the tires you mentioned are WAY wider then I will be running.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534035975.jpg

good luck
just FYI regular 911 Fuchs 7 w/ ET23.3 have ~4.77" backspace, your proposed wheel w/ 5.5" back space sit that much more inboard

David 23 08-11-2018 06:47 PM

Curious about your choice of 18"? Not the typical fitment.

VWLoosenuts 08-11-2018 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 10139300)
good luck
just FYI regular 911 Fuchs 7 w/ ET23.3 have ~4.77" backspace, your proposed wheel w/ 5.5" back space sit that much more inboard


From my hub to the fender lip is 2.75 inches I gave myself a 1/4 gap for spacing non rolled front fender. That’s my “front spacing” subtract that from the overal 8” wheels size (lip to lip) and I have a back spacing of 5.5.

There is no way I would be able to tuck a 7” wheel. 8” overal lip lip inside the fender with a 4.77 back spacing. That gives me a hub to outside lip spacing of 3.23. That’s outside my fender itself

VWLoosenuts 08-11-2018 07:45 PM

This is his test fitment wheel he brought over that is a 18x7 with 5.5 backspacing. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534041812.jpg

sc_rufctr 08-11-2018 08:45 PM

Holy cow they're nice wheels Jeremy!

VWLoosenuts 08-11-2018 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10139473)
Holy cow they're nice wheels Jeremy!

Thank you very much.

VWLoosenuts 08-11-2018 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David 23 (Post 10139329)
Curious about your choice of 18"? Not the typical fitment.

Never been a guy to follow.

I hate 15s. 16 and 17 don’t fill up the wheel arch very well IMO. 18s tuck nice, give the stance looks i am after. Huge tire selection at great prices. 19s have a limited tire options and more expensive. 20s just seem rediculess IMO.

slow&rusty 08-12-2018 05:19 AM

Wow..very cool! Looking forward to seeing them installed

Munky King 08-12-2018 07:22 AM

Wow!
Hats off to you sir for doing your own thing.
Love it!!!!
Can’t wait to see how the car pans out when it’s finished. Looks like it going to be staggering!

AG81 08-12-2018 07:36 AM

I have always been a fan of doing your own thing............ Well Done.

Bill Verburg 08-12-2018 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWLoosenuts (Post 10139380)
From my hub to the fender lip is 2.75 inches I gave myself a 1/4 gap for spacing non rolled front fender. That’s my “front spacing” subtract that from the overal 8” wheels size (lip to lip) and I have a back spacing of 5.5.

There is no way I would be able to tuck a 7” wheel. 8” overal lip lip inside the fender with a 4.77 back spacing. That gives me a hub to outside lip spacing of 3.23. That’s outside my fender itself

I don't know what suspension and hub you have but for a standard 911 from '68 to '89, a standard oe 7" ET23.3 Fuchs has ~2.93" of frontspace and 4.77" of backspace, overall is ~7.7", the tire on that rim is what interferes at times. The usual tire fitted is a 205/55 x16 this tire size on the 7" Fuchs has an OD of ~24.9", a front space of ~3.12"(+/- depending on the specific tire) These can interfere at the lip depending on ride height and suspension.

The largest wheel/tire is going to be 8ET25 225/45 x17, these have an OD of ~25", front space of ~3.44". These just barely clear a shaved lip when a little extra negative camber is used. The biggest tire on that wheel is a 235/45 x17 which requires the above + raised ride height. OD here is ~25.4" w/ f/s ~3.64".

In summary f/s of ~2.95" is pretty comfortable but does require some car w/ tires( shorter being easier to fit) and possibly lips, ~3.5" is a max w/ height restrictions, the more under 3.5" the fewer height and suspension restrictions.

VWLoosenuts 08-12-2018 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 10139813)
I don't know what suspension and hub you have but for a standard 911 from '68 to '89, a standard oe 7" ET23.3 Fuchs has ~2.93" of frontspace and 4.77" of backspace, overall is ~7.7", the tire on that rim is what interferes at times. The usual tire fitted is a 205/55 x16 this tire size on the 7" Fuchs has an OD of ~24.9", a front space of ~3.12"(+/- depending on the specific tire) These can interfere at the lip depending on ride height and suspension.

The largest wheel/tire is going to be 8ET25 225/45 x17, these have an OD of ~25", front space of ~3.44". These just barely clear a shaved lip when a little extra negative camber is used. The biggest tire on that wheel is a 235/45 x17 which requires the above + raised ride height. OD here is ~25.4" w/ f/s ~3.64".

In summary f/s of ~2.95" is pretty comfortable but does require some car w/ tires( shorter being easier to fit) and possibly lips, ~3.5" is a max w/ height restrictions, the more under 3.5" the fewer height and suspension restrictions.


With respect that’s great info for someone that’s running factory Fuchs. Thank you. However as you can tell these wheels are far from factory! I am VERY confident in my and the manufacturers measuring of offset to fit my set up. We have measured and measured for proper fitment for my car. I CANNOT fit a 3.5” front spacing within my fenders regardless if it’s trimmed or rolled unless I over roll the fender

BURN-BROS 08-12-2018 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWLoosenuts (Post 10139880)
With respect that’s great info for someone that’s running factory Fuchs. Thank you. However as you can tell these wheels are far from factory! I am VERY confident in my and the manufacturers measuring of offset to fit my set up. We have measured and measured for proper fitment for my car. I CANNOT fit a 3.5” front spacing within my fenders regardless if it’s trimmed or rolled unless I over roll the fender

What Hubs are you running? Stock 76?

VWLoosenuts 08-12-2018 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BURN-BROS (Post 10139895)
What Hubs are you running? Stock 76?

As far as I know they are stock 76 hubs.


In fairness the car started out as s 912E. Could possibly change things.

BURN-BROS 08-12-2018 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWLoosenuts (Post 10139926)
As far as I know they are stock 76 hubs.


In fairness the car started out as s 912E. Could possibly change things.

Bill is the Resident Specialist when it comes to wheel fitment and brakes. He is posting what can normally be done when the traditional track width and the stock fender is being used.

His posts are both accurate and cautionary. It implies that something may be out of spec on your car.

Have you done an alignment prior to fitment? Do both sides measure out the same?

BTW, nice looking wheel.

VWLoosenuts 08-12-2018 12:24 PM

I will report back when they are on.

Thanks for all the feed back guys it is appreciated.


With regard to fitment. My fitment preference is not for track set up. The car will be much lower in stance then typically seen on this form.

BURN-BROS 08-12-2018 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWLoosenuts (Post 10140071)
I will report back when they are on.

Thanks for all the feed back guys it is appreciated.


With regard to fitment. My fitment preference is not for track set up. The car will be much lower in stance then typically seen on this form.

Track width is the measurement from hub face to hub face. 54.06" if the drawing below is accurate. It doesn't imply competition specs.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534102752.jpg

Look forward to seeing your progress.

VWLoosenuts 08-12-2018 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BURN-BROS (Post 10140114)
Track width is the measurement from hub face to hub face. 54.06" if the drawing below is accurate. It doesn't imply competition specs.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534102752.jpg

Look forward to seeing your progress.

Going off the bottom left front end picture. I see the hub width of 54.06” as you’ve mentioned from that drawing?

If that’s the hub to hub width my hub width isn’t anywhere near that narrow. Mine is 56-1/8” hub face to hub face.

Both sides have a front hub to inside lip of fender is 2.75”. Everything seems true and straight

Bill Verburg 08-12-2018 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BURN-BROS (Post 10140114)
Track width is the measurement from hub face to hub face. 54.06" if the drawing below is accurate. It doesn't imply competition specs.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534102752.jpg

Look forward to seeing your progress.

I appreciate the support but track is the distance between the tire centerlines which coincides w/ the wheel center lines

it differs from hub to hub by 2x the wheel offset(ET), 6" Fuchs have ET36, this is positive in nature and so 72mm(~2.8") is added from the track to get the hub separation.

VWLoosenuts 08-12-2018 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 10140384)
I appreciate the support but track is the distance between the tire centerlines which coincides w/ the wheel center lines

it differs from hub to hub by 2x the wheel offset(ET), 6" Fuchs have ET36, this is positive in nature and so 72mm(~2.8") is subtracted from the track to get the hub separation.

Bill what should the measurement be from face of hub to face if hub?

Bill Verburg 08-12-2018 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWLoosenuts (Post 10140361)
Going off the bottom left front end picture. I see the hub width of 54.06” as you’ve mentioned from that drawing?

If that’s the hub to hub width my hub width isn’t anywhere near that narrow. Mine is 56-1/8” hub face to hub face.

Both sides have a front hub to inside lip of fender is 2.75”. Everything seems true and straight

As noted above track is tire centerline to tire centerline, this coincides w/ wheel centerline to wheel center line. For 6" Fuchs w/ ET36, 72mm(~2.83") needs to be added to track width to get hub width.

so for the pictured car if 54.06" is the track 54.06 + 2.83 = 56.89" is the hub width

I have amended this and my previous post, a negative o/s wheel will move the track width in while a positive o/s wheel(all Fuchs) move the track width out I n each case by 2xs the ET

VWLoosenuts 08-12-2018 04:27 PM

Thanks for all the great info.

What I do know is from my hub face to the inside lip of my none rolled fenders on both sides is 2.75”. And I subtracted 1/4” for clearance.

Bill Verburg 08-12-2018 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWLoosenuts (Post 10140410)
Thanks for all the great info.

What I do know is from my hub face to the inside lip of my none rolled fenders on both sides is 2.75”. And I subtracted 1/4” for clearance.

I really need a nap and my apologies but I need to change back to my original statement, I promise that this is correct

positive o/s wheels move the track in by 2x the wheel ET.
track - 2xET = hub width
for 6" Fuchs w/ ET36
in the above diagram
54.06" - 2x36mm
54.06" - 72mm
54.06" - 2.83"
51.23" is the hub width

LJ851 08-12-2018 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 10140428)
I really need a nap and my apologies but I need to change back to my original statement, I promise that this is correct

positive o/s wheels move the track in by 2x the wheel ET.
track - 2xET = hub width
for 6" Fuchs w/ ET36
in the above diagram
54.06" - 2x36mm
54.06" - 72mm
54.06" - 2.83"
51.23" is the hub width


Bill, i think your other measurements were correct. The WMS sits closer to the outside of the wheel on a positive offset wheel leaving the wheel centerline (track) inboard of the WMS. The hub to hub width is wider than the track width.





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Bill Verburg 08-13-2018 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ851 (Post 10140514)
Bill, i think your other measurements were correct. The WMS sits closer to the outside of the wheel on a positive offset wheel leaving the wheel centerline (track) inboard of the WMS. The hub to hub width is wider than the track width.





..

yes you are right, I was totally out of it yesterday afternoon. :(

positive ET wheels move the center line in from the hub so the wheel ET x2 need to be added to the track ti get the hub width.

BURN-BROS 08-13-2018 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 10140761)
yes you are right, I was totally out of it yesterday afternoon. :(

positive ET wheels move the center line in from the hub so the wheel ET x2 need to be added to the track ti get the hub width.


I hope it was a good bottle of wine.

VWLoosenuts 08-13-2018 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 10140428)
I really need a nap and my apologies but I need to change back to my original statement, I promise that this is correct

positive o/s wheels move the track in by 2x the wheel ET.
track - 2xET = hub width
for 6" Fuchs w/ ET36
in the above diagram
54.06" - 2x36mm
54.06" - 72mm
54.06" - 2.83"
51.23" is the hub width

Thanks again Bill


I'm confidant in the setup I wanted and what we measured too. If I was building a traditional car and setup I would be worried. However considering my car is VERY FAR from traditional I believe the way I had them built will more then satisfy me liking.

Again thanks .


Now I am going to wait patiently at the door for the mail man for my new wheels. :D

Bill Verburg 08-13-2018 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BURN-BROS (Post 10141016)
I hope it was a good bottle of wine.

Better than wine, A nice fast 60mi bike ride

VWLoosenuts 08-17-2018 11:08 AM

Arrived and test fired. Absolutely nailed it and what I wanted. No way I could be anymore happy. :D:D:D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534528691.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534528691.jpg


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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534528833.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534529061.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534529061.jpg
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nvr2mny 08-17-2018 11:56 AM

I think those look FANTASTIC! Looking forward to seeing them with tires and mounted.

BURN-BROS 08-17-2018 12:03 PM

Great job Jeremy

Bill Verburg 08-17-2018 01:30 PM

Please, check the back space on the front 7's


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