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What kind of structure is that in the background? My wife grew up around Lake Geneva, is pic from around there?
If car was well garaged and kept from salt you will know it once you see the underside. |
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Nice car BTW! I tend to agree with the above. Check the studs at valve checking time, then you can decide what to do if one ever does break. Some people suggest you can drive for quite some time with a missing head stud, too (depending on which one broke!). I'm currently in the middle of a repair broken head stud / engine rebuild. Couldn't resist cracking that case open!! |
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The car appears to be garage kept and from salt. Not sure that even makes any difference on the head bolt front. Running the car with a snapped bolt seems crazy. would compression tests be able to tell you if you had a snapped bolt? |
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I am no pro mechanic but just seems crazy a compression or leak down test wouldn't show any change. Maybe you can drive the car with a snapped bolt.
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Then you are stressing the other 3 studs in a different manner.....but, folks have done this I guess without serious damage. There are so many variables in doing this that it is hard to make a generalization though. OTOH, easy to check, pull the covers....if something is amiss you can easily tell...it will generally be your exhaust dilivar studs and that makes it an easier check. If all is well, like Alfred E Neuman says 'Me Worry'? Just drive it. |
Well, the thing is with a car this old, ***** will happen.
On a positive note, these cars are generally very durable and reliable, especially if properly maintained. I would recommend keeping the car in top mechanical condition, but be ready for anything that may crop up. Kind of like owning a house. Sooner or later things need repairs and replacement. Also on a positive note, all of the known issues are well documented. Parts are readily available as is information on repairs. As far as broken head studs goes, yea, it is an epidemic. The good news is if you are good with a wrench you could do the repair yourself for just the cost of the new studs, assuming no other work needs to be done to the motor. There is that "while you are in there $$$$" thing to keep in mind,though. |
From the research I have been doing (as new SC owner) my plan is to build a large (to me) engine fund of at least 15K. These engines are old and will need rebuilding, they are ridiculously expensive to repair let alone add upgrades "while your in there".
I am learning quickly that without very deep pockets or just deep pockets and skills Porsche ownership might be more pain than joy. :) |
Mine has ~70k miles. Sat for a number of years. I drove it about 6000 miles in the first year of ownership - no garage queen. Took it in for a valve adjustment and they found a broken head stud. It is now getting a top end rebuild with stainless steel studs. I hopefully get it back next week. Doing a lot of stuff "while they're in there" - including replacing the tensioner chain, new airbox (it had blown 30 years ago and the epoxy to repair and install a popoff valve was messy and starting to flake), new stainless steel exhaust, etc. It's costing a ton, but my thinking is that I'm just doing in one big chunk while the engine is out what I kind of expected to do over a number of years. I'll be driving the crap out of it soon...
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Clark....from the engine rebuilding section.... more head stud info that one can consume...
https://forums.pelicanparts.com/search.php?searchid=18020081 try this and look for Chris 7's comments...always enlightening.... https://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/872358-steel-head-studs-bad-2.html |
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Pop the valve covers off and hope nothing hits the floor. I can say it was a hold your breath and hope experience the first time for me. Don't spend your time worrying about what could happen. Drive the car and enjoy, address problems as they surface. "She's a beaut Clark!" (I'm jealous of your pasha interior) |
Maybe I will refinish my wheels and do a suspension overhaul before looking.
While the valve adjustment on this car was done in 2013 (and presumably head bolts were fine) it's my understanding that head bolts are susceptible to time as well as miles, while a valve adjustment is not right? ie I am not due for a valve adjustment considering how little the car has been driven since the last one. |
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Here's one way to look at this ...
How many miles do these engine go before requiring any top end work not just for head studs ? In that light, the studs may not appear as that much of an issue compared to valve jobs or worn cylinders for example, the latter of which no one seem to consider indicative of an inevitable problem. |
My SC engine at 250k only had 1 broken stud. Luck of the draw it seems.
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I say drive the snot out of it. You’re going to have plenty of opportunities to spend money on the motor as time goes on.
I recently went through a top end rebuild on my 81 930 which had Divilar exhaust studs. None were broken. I seriously considered keeping them but I caved to conventional wisdom and went with steel. That said I know of two other local 930 owners decided to keep there Dilivar studs on the advice of a very well respected Porsche mechanic during there rebuild. BTW neither of the above mentioned 930s are stock motors. Anyway, nice looking 911. Welcome, and, enjoy! |
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I would suggest take the valve covers off at next oil change if it’s keeping you up at night. I did to satisfy myself - a relieving moment when all were accounted for. |
One of the truths of life, dilivar breaks! If not now, then later! Of course, the lower studs in your engine may have already been replaced. Check with a magnet. If it sticks, they are steel if not, then they are dilivar which is non magnetic. Use a small magnet so it isn't attracted to the nut.
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Completed the full rebuild myself (split the case), took about 6 weeks tip to tail and far less than $15k...much closer to $5k. |
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