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Shaun @ Tru6 04-23-2019 04:07 PM

An indicator that 911 ownership isn't for you
 
Of course the ball joint socket was the last area I started to media blast. I just don't understand what some people do to these cars.

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da Vinci Dan 04-23-2019 04:12 PM

Looks like someone was trying to replace that ball joint with a flat head screwdriver. That’s a frustrating day at work.

Koizumi 04-23-2019 04:24 PM

Geez, that’s not cool

ChrisHoover 04-23-2019 04:51 PM

The PO of my car used wood screws in many places. I don't get it, certainly in LA where the car is from, there are well stocked hardware stores.

I’ve been in the trades my whole life, I’ve seen the behavior over and over. Some people have no pride or sense of craftsmanship. It is not that hard to scribe baseboard for instance. I’ve seen many iterations of cruddy dry wall, paint, cocked electrical devices, poorly supported cabling, and mis- installed expensive door hardware. Designers suck too. A well known company has an office with a seismic brace blocking a corridor. The structural engineer was right in putting a steel member where she placed it. The interior architect had her head firmly lodged in her posterior.

Sebscst 04-23-2019 05:19 PM

Air chisel to remove ball joint nut. Might be one of my old a arms.:D

Rawknees'Turbo 04-23-2019 05:31 PM

Shaun, just fill the chisel divets in wiff some JB Weld, bro! :D

drcoastline 04-24-2019 04:14 AM

I think that is more common than one might think. Improper use or the wrong tool is all to common, not only in auto repair but in most things.

piscator 04-24-2019 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 10437348)
I think that is more common than one might think. Improper use or the wrong tool is all to common, not only in auto repair but in most things.

Although I don't think I've banged anything up quite that badly, I'd love to say I never did anything similar. Mostly when I was young and didn't have or couldn't afford the proper tool.

Matt Monson 04-24-2019 05:00 AM

None of us was born with a golden wrench in our hands. A shop who posts their customer's mistakes and publicly mocks them probably isn't for me.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-24-2019 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10437383)
None of us was born with a golden wrench in our hands. A shop who posts their customer's mistakes and publicly mocks them probably isn't for me.

I'm not sure how you came up with that Matt or why you would think so little of me. I'm putting Rebel Racing bushings on my M491. These arms are from a parts car I got maybe 10 years ago. I thought it better to remove all of my original parts, tuck them away and put on restored, modified parts all in a take-off-and-put-on 1 day event.

DWBOX2000 04-24-2019 05:29 AM

My indicator was I ran out of money.
Get that M491 done. Been a while since I drove in an air cooled. Looking forward to it.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-24-2019 05:36 AM

Headers going on this week, also have to do triangle of death gaskets and throw-out bearing so engine/trans should be in this weekend. Suspension following weekend.

Rodney Nelson 04-24-2019 05:37 AM

Seems to me you found bad quality coming in and there was no way you were going to have bad quality going out to one of your customers. I would trust you, 100%. Not to mention all of your helpful posts.

Matt Monson 04-24-2019 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10437387)
I'm not sure how you came up with that Matt or why you would think so little of me. I'm putting Rebel Racing bushings on my M491. These arms are from a parts car I got maybe 10 years ago. I thought it better to remove all of my original parts, tuck them away and put on restored, modified parts all in a take-off-and-put-on 1 day event.

I only know what you said, and nothing more. You made no previous mention that it was your own car and the work of a previous owner. It’s not that I think poorly of you, but you are a shop now and you frequently post customer jobs. I’m just going on what you presented. I’m glad you cleared that up because obviously I don’t look kindly on a shop who would mock a customer’s ignorance instead of making it a teachable moment. Thanks for clarifying.

Jonny042 04-24-2019 06:09 AM

I don't even understand why those marks would be there? Ball joint retainer goes on the bottom of the arm, why on earth?

john walker's workshop 04-24-2019 06:47 AM

People use an air hammer bit there to try to get the ball joint pin out of the strut, when you could just take the bottom retaining ring off the ball joint and deal with it once off the car.

wrxnofx 04-24-2019 08:27 AM

My guess is that that is from a pickle fork that was used to separate the strut from the ball joint. Some of us don't have lifts or air tools.

GaryR 04-24-2019 08:41 AM

Nothing a quick grind and 5 minutes of MIG work won't make like new Shaun, i've seen worse... and I bought a race car built by a well known shop in CA that had wood screws holding the throttle pedal down and the seat mounts so twisted it moved an inch when the bolts came out, no one is immune to shoddy work.

Jonny042 04-25-2019 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wrxnofx (Post 10437637)
My guess is that that is from a pickle fork that was used to separate the strut from the ball joint. Some of us don't have lifts or air tools.

I own an a fair selection of air tools but they rarely get used for mechanical work. IMO they tend to do more harm than good!!!

Rawknees'Turbo 04-25-2019 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonny042 (Post 10438434)
I own an a fair selection of air tools but they rarely get used for mechanical work. IMO they tend to do more harm than good!!!

That's down to operator error, bub. :)


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