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Buck has almost the same, home built system as I do (similar to Griff's, but components from various suppliers); he should have high 20s vent temps in high 90s ambient, but doesn't have anything close to that. It is a real mystery (all troubleshooting basis covered in the forum over the past two years or so - including lots of input from Griff).
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I updated my 911SC, everything modern from the navigation system to the A/C. Xenon headlights and 300hp. Here's what it looks like now:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561150587.jpg Yes that's a joke, but really, if you want modern comfort the 996 is a LOT of car for the money. Quote:
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Ronnie is right, I have a new compressor, new evaporator from Rennaire, 100% new hoses and fittings, new/additional condenser with powerful fan. original condensers flushed with appropriate cleaner. Have vucuumed down and recharged several times, including taking it to a "professional" AC shop to see if I was doing something wrong....still get, at best, 30 degree drop from ambient at the vents. So, if it's 95 I'll see 65 at the vents. As unlikely as it seems I am wondering if there is anything wrong or out of adjustment with the Rennaire evaporator. Yes, reciever drier new every time. Charlie has suggested there is most likely ambient air in the system but I'm not sure how that could be considering how many times it's been evacuated and recharged. I'm pretty much given up and just drive the GLC 300 99% of the time. Sorry, did not mean to turn this into an ac thread.
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Here is my bucket list of things I would do to upgrade/modernize my SC, if I had unlimited time and budget:
- Porsche classic navigation system/radio - Modern EFI with PMO ITBs - Led lights all around, inside and out. - A faster gearbox, like one form a honda. |
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Two schools of thought on modernizing the 911:
1. Electrification: Make it fast, reliable, clean, and future-proof. Porsche has always been more about the chassis than the drivetrain. Don't think for a minute that Ferry wouldn't have used the Tesla drivetrain if he had access to it in the '60's. 2. Get off my lawn, Millenial! |
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Pull another two or three hour vacuum, refill with nitrogen, and let that sit overnight. Then pull another 3 three our vacuum, using fresh oil in the compressor, and then purging every line and connection of the manifold with little refrigerant to be 100% sure there is no air left, recharge the system. I am too chicken to use the liquid refrigerant so I do it all with just the gas, through the low side of course. It is a belts, suspenders, and still holding on to my belt loops method of recharging. One other very important item. Double check the evaporator sensor location. I just upgraded my fan motor to the big fan, and had the top of the fan cover off. When I put the sensor back in, I was careful to place it properly, and I used a little dab of thermal paste on the brass tube, and the bulb of the sensor. That really seems to get the temp lower and avoid any freeze up. Before I would get evaporator freeze up if I ran the system on max cold for an hour or two. Now it just cycles off the compressor as needed. I am driving my 911 to Key West next month. July in Key West is gonna be HOT. And I will have my brother with me, so maximum AC will be needed. I will report back on how it did after the trip. |
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Maybe update the front suspension to make it handle like the newer water cooled 996's and get rid of that horrendous understeer.
Cheers, Joe 87 Carrera |
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Anyway, at this point I'd be happy with a windshield washer system that works as well as a full syncromesh transmission. |
PDK with luanch control on one of my 993's would be pretty sweet
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Moved the top lever on the dash sliders. The top lever goes from closed to open an no fan, then 1,2 or 3 on the fan speed. The second lever is left to blow on your feet, right to blow on the windshield, in the middle is a blend from feet or defrost. Nothing will ever blow on you face if you don’t have AC. |
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Not sure if Fuhrmann wanted to kill it. He probably wanted to stick to the plan of 924/928. The SC was supposed to be the last of the series, like the 356SC. The mid-year foibles seem bad in hindsight but they were nothing compared to the competitions malaise era cars of the day, of which few actually survive. Compared to a 'muscle' car like a trans am or camaro, or even a mid engined exotic, the 911 of the mid '70s was a rocketship built from granite. But Schutz didn't save it. The buyers did, because they walked straight past the transaxle cars and kept buying the 911 at something like 2x the rate of the 928. Schutz merely recognised the fact that the customer is always right. The development money only went into the convertible and then the new engine. The 928 lived for another 12 years after that. Ironic, because the 928 has got great AC, is quiet and comfortable while still plenty fast, plenty of space, 'modern' handling....but nobody has yet suggested trading the 911 for a 928! |
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So I'm going to change my answer above. Like a modern car, I'd change my 911 so fresh air blows on my face from the center vents. |
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Parts availability like a new car. It sucks paying $25 USD for shipping for every little thing.
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Open the fresh air and divert it to the floor, and run the AC fan at max, and you get some air blowing on you and that does help me. To replace your AC hoses, new dryer, and new compressor and likely replace the evaporator would get you fairly stock AC. It is lots better than none. Talk to Charlie, tell him what you have, and where you want to go. It is far from cheap, but he makes a great product. For me, it was without a doubt the best improvement ever for my 911, and I have done many improvements. It is your car, drive it and enjoy it. If you find yourself not driving it becasue it is hot outside, fix that issue, and get to driving! |
Lots of AC in this thread, The Classic Retrofit is a great kit.
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