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sidney67 07-19-2019 01:58 PM

Installing fogs on long hood
 
Planning on installing my newly acquired fog lights on my 1969 E but this ugly mess needs sorting first; does anyone have a photo of what an unmolested fog light bracket should look like so I can bend these back to the right shape/position?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563573448.jpg

Thanks,

Rob

smadsen 07-19-2019 08:24 PM

That looks like a "bend to fit" project. Very tedious.

ossiblue 07-20-2019 07:35 AM

Regardless of its bent condition, the 69-73 used Hella 139 fog lights which were more rectangular and slightly larger than the 128s used in earlier cars. Additionally, they mounted with a hollow bolt that extended straight out from the center of the back of the light and was secured thorough a hole that was in the center of the bracket in the bumper. Your bumper shows no hole in the center to fit the light, but you can see part of a hole at the top of the bracket which would hold the 90* bolt of a 128 light. However you straighten the bracket, there needs to be a mounting hole in-line with the bolt of the fog light.

Here's a picture of the correct 139 fog light:
https://msroadrace.com/image/cache/c..._1-500x500.jpg

Here's a 128 light:
http://www.2040-parts.com/_content/i...394528/001.jpg

Here's a picture of a 71 bumper where you can see the brackets. Not a real close shot, but maybe you can see the correct form they should take.
https://dudazps6njn84.cloudfront.net..._id=880000500F

Many years ago I mounted 139s on my 69 and I vaguely remember drilling a hole for the mounting bolt in the center of the bracket, but not sure.

sidney67 07-20-2019 03:47 PM

Tedious....yes I anticipate it not being enjoyable.

I have the 139's, these holes will work as long as my bending skills are good enough.

Thanks for the assistance

Rob

ian c2 07-20-2019 04:00 PM

Take a look at the pics in this thread .

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1032937-67-swb-custom-air-intake-bumper.html

Arne2 07-20-2019 04:38 PM

Not the best angle, but it's the only shot I have without the blanking plate on it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563669499.jpg

shahram 07-20-2019 05:04 PM

Here you go:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563670948.jpg

sidney67 07-20-2019 06:59 PM

So an hour or so of bending the brackets with a 3 foot threaded rod; here's the results. Hard to imagine what happened to get them so out of shape...thanks again for the help.

Rob

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563677929.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563677965.jpg

smadsen 07-20-2019 08:53 PM

Doesn't look like a good fit. I think ossiblue has it right. Are you sure you have the correct valance for your fog lights? Or more to the point, do you have the correct fog lights for your valance?

sidney67 07-21-2019 06:57 AM

The lights are correct, 139's (or 169's) are correct for a 1969, however you could be right on the valance. It's hard to see as it's been so badly butchered (the other is just as bad) but I think mine has the middle fold and 2 holes that all of the pictures shared show.....I do have more bending to do though.

ossiblue 07-21-2019 08:08 AM

Keep in mind, this is all from memory.

As I stated earlier, I installed 139s on my 69 but I'm still not sure if I drilled a center hole. After looking at the last pictures, I don't believe I did. 139 fogs stick out more from the opening than earlier, SWB base 128s and I very well may have used one of the existing holes which offsets the lights to the outside. Again, not sure. My only concern, looking at the last post, is the lights seem too low, but that may just be the angle of the photo.

Here's a picture of Steve McQueen's 1970 S. Note the fog light position. You may have it right.

https://mikeshouts.com/wp-content/up...-900x600px.jpg
https://rmsothebys-cache.azureedge.n...8b35e233fe.jpg

Here's another showing how the lights are positioned
https://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/6...0@2X.jpg?rev=1

sidney67 07-21-2019 01:04 PM

Great pics, such a stunning car that.

Here's the lenses installed; the driver side is pointing down so needs a little more tweaking.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563742891.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563742891.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563742891.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563742891.jpg


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