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Noah930 08-21-2019 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod (Post 10566057)
Ok, I just spoke to Andrei and Fuchsfelge USA.
He says the 16s are identical to the originals. Only the larger sizes have the different petal shapes.

He also said they way they were able to shave off the weight is due to how the outers are spun. Sounded like they were able to get consistency down to 8 microns.

Here's a photo from Parade he just emailed me.

Thanks. So, we're waiting until next month/September for delivery? :D

LUFTKUL 08-21-2019 01:41 PM

All Star Motorsports is the official US Distributor:

https://www.fuchsfelgeusa.com/product/16-inch-fuchs-wheels/

Maybe Pelican can become a retailer?

WolfeMacleod 08-21-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 10566109)
Thanks. So, we're waiting until next month/September for delivery? :D

Yep. I think all except 18 of the current run are pre-ordered.

Noah930 08-21-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod (Post 10566532)
Yep. I think all except 18 of the current run are pre-ordered.

How do you know that?

WolfeMacleod 08-21-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 10566566)
How do you know that?

That's what I was told when I pre-ordered mine.

flashboarder 08-21-2019 11:06 PM

I found a post on facebook of a renown Porsche specialist and he says the following:

"These are ORIGINAL FUCHS. The hub cap is not included which you can order original. Fuchs took years to reproduce them in accordance with the old specs (and even better) after first producing the 17, 18 and 19 inch. They are the producer and PORSCHE only the client at the time. Porsche did not want to participate in reproduction, which is why FUCHS picked it up itself. There will be miscellaneous 15 inch sizes coming."


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1566457348.jpg

H-viken 08-22-2019 02:53 AM

Let's hope they make the 15x7R wheel again! I'd be in for a pair of those

Flojo 08-22-2019 03:58 AM

In Germany you get the "new" Fuchs(*) only via the Porsche Classic Dealers (a service about every regular Porsche AD has).
This is kinda anoying, as you cannot deal with Fuchs Germany directly and must pay Porsche price.

(* yes, they do look 1:1 identical to those from the 70s/80s)

Too costly for me... so as my original 7/8x16 were recently restored and PlastiDip saved them from userash the last years, I cleaned them and stocked them in the cellar and now run Maxilite at a new set price of under EUR 1000,-

stripping the PlastiDip…
https://up.picr.de/36517094vf.jpeg

like new…
https://up.picr.de/36517099wj.jpeg

https://up.picr.de/36517101uo.jpeg

sp_cs 08-22-2019 04:47 AM

Rose Passion in France sell the new ones:
https://new.rosepassion.com/en/parts-porsche-911-turbo-965-1988-eu-3-3-turbo-coupe-manual-gearbox-4-speed/rims-and-track-wideners-and-accessories-217/jante-fuchs-origine-16-pouces-3874/original-fuchs-wheels-16-x-9j-3875-0-583854

GH85Carrera 08-22-2019 06:14 AM

At Porsche Parade I chatted with the folks at the Fuchs booth. The 16 inch wheel looks real nice. They had the 17s there as well. Unfortunately for Carrera and SC owners, the offset for the 17s is designed for the 964. To run it on a SC or Carrera will require a fairly wide spacer. Personally I am not a fan of using a spacer. Maybe down the road, they will produce a 17 for the G body. The choice for tires is a lot better in 17s.

Geronimo '74 08-22-2019 07:20 AM

I’d buy a genuine new set of 17’s in a heartbeat.

GH85Carrera 08-22-2019 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 10566954)
I’d buy a genuine new set of 17’s in a heartbeat.

They will be available very soon, if not out for sale already.

If they sell the 17s in the proper offset for a Carrera, I will order a set. I like my Euromiesters, but they are cast and heavy.

Teutonics 08-22-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10566880)
...Unfortunately for Carrera and SC owners, the offset for the 17s is designed for the 964. To run it on a SC or Carrera will require a fairly wide spacer....

That and the petal design is different. If it were also true to original form I'd be in for a set as well.

GH85Carrera 08-22-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Teutonics (Post 10567009)
That and the petal design is different. If it were also true to original form I'd be in for a set as well.

Some of the petal design change is simple scaling issues. The lug nit pattern has to remain the exact size to fit on the car. The outside diameter goes up to 17 inches, and something has to stretch. To keep the petals the same width, the opening between the petals have to get smaller. It all comes down to proportions.

The Lindsey welded up wheels made from original 16s comes pretty close to ideal, but they have to fudge some things to make it work.

In the end, I do agree with you, I wish the 17s looked more like the old 16s, or my OEM 15s.

Geronimo '74 08-22-2019 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10567069)
Some of the petal design change is simple scaling issues. The lug nit pattern has to remain the exact size to fit on the car. The outside diameter goes up to 17 inches, and something has to stretch. To keep the petals the same width, the opening between the petals have to get smaller. It all comes down to proportions.

The thing to stretch is the anodized lip.
Don’t touch the petal design one bit.

WolfeMacleod 08-22-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 10566954)
I’d buy a genuine new set of 17’s in a heartbeat.


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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10566983)
They will be available very soon, if not out for sale already.

If they sell the 17s in the proper offset for a Carrera, I will order a set. I like my Euromiesters, but they are cast and heavy.

The 17s are already available. I saw some on a local Pelican's car a year or two ago while stopping at a bank. They looked freaking great. I forget whose it was though.

GH85Carrera 08-22-2019 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod (Post 10567083)
The 17s are already available. I saw some on a local Pelican's car a year or two ago while stopping at a bank. They looked freaking great. I forget whose it was though.

Yep, but I bet a nickle they had thick spacers to make them fit, unless he has a 964.

WolfeMacleod 08-22-2019 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10567283)
Yep, but I bet a nickle they had thick spacers to make them fit, unless he has a 964.

It was a 964.

Trackrash 08-22-2019 04:44 PM

FWIW, I bought two new Fuchs, 8 x 16, a number of years ago from Wheel Enhancement. '02 dated and I got them in '05.

Iciclehead 08-22-2019 05:02 PM

I just bought a set of Fuchfelge in 17 inch and am delighted with them.

Spacers are needed 32mm front and 21mm rear, so I am looking for the lightest possible. H&R DRM look pretty good for the fronts (dual bolt) and not superheavy with their fancy alloy.

Elephant looks good for the rear, using longer studs and with the relieving of material, again not too heavy.

What changed my mind first of all is at autobahn speeds (car is returning to Europe when I am finished here in Colorado) I want new wheels that are as good as I can get.

Second, if I looked at some of the other wheels like the cup replicas on my old 911, they had a big honking part of the casting to give the appearance, so that chunk of cast aluminium isn't much lighter than a spacer.

Lastly...tire weight (and other unsprung weight). I will just try to pick a slightly lighter tire, coupled with those superlight Fuchfelge's (and they are crazy light) I will still be better off than most wheel/tire/brake combo's.

Dennis


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