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thrown_hammer 03-28-2003 02:53 AM

Hypothetical question...weird color idea.
 
What do you guys think about a Flat or Satin black '73 Carrera RS replica? Now before you all FREAK OUT on me, hear me out.
I was thinking the satin black with clearcoat.(not spraybombed like my truck:D )
A proffesional paint job with the gloss black RS decal set for subtlety. Maybe switch over to the chrome horn grills to offset the blackness.
Can photoshop pull off a flat or satin black car and look right? If it can could someone photoshop a RS for me to visualize?
Thanks guys.

Zendalar 03-28-2003 03:13 AM

A friend of mine (professional painter) painted his Toyota to satin yellow/orange. It was very good looking but it was a b-itch to keep clean.

JackT 03-28-2003 03:36 AM

If I remember correctly, there was a picture of a satin black car in an Excellance mag about 6 months back. It made it like a car that had not been waxed in 30 years.

thrown_hammer 03-28-2003 04:03 AM

Wasn't that car spraybombed? Alot of the custom bikes now have a satin black paint scheme. It has more of a sheen than a shine. The bikes I have seen look sinister. I will see if I can find a pic of one of the bikes for reference.

Randy W 03-28-2003 04:57 AM

Solid slate gray from the '70 model year might be close to this effect, and it's a Porsche color.

BlueSkyJaunte 03-28-2003 06:17 AM

The 930 in Excellence is in primer, I think--and it was professionally done, and intended to look that way. I believe the "Carrera" scripts on the rockers/doors were done in gloss black.

Ducati has been doing a flat black treatment on their "Dark" versions of the Monster for a few years. It looks badass.

http://www.ducati-az.com/images/monsterdark.JPG

thrown_hammer 03-28-2003 07:05 AM

That is what I am talking about!
Can someone photoshop that color onto a RS for me? Please?

thrown_hammer 03-28-2003 11:04 AM

A guy here in our art dept. is gonna try to mock up a pic of my car for me. If it works I will post it.

Randy Webb 03-28-2003 11:33 AM

I would do satin black WITH metallic or metal flake in it. I think that would be really interesting. I wouldn't have my car that color -- but it's one I'd enjoy seeing at a show, etc.

island911 03-28-2003 11:38 AM

Dude - cover it in black velvet ! . . . then paint on an Elvis. :cool:

JmuRiz 03-28-2003 11:54 AM

Here is a pic of an R1 w/ a flat black paint job on it...polished frame, swingarm and wheel lips...to each his own i guess.
http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/att...postid=1319468

Tim Walsh 03-28-2003 11:56 AM

DOH gotta sign up to see it.

Milu 03-28-2003 11:59 AM

Satin black with all black details and interior. Tinted glass and glossy black script would look really mean. Probably a pain to keep up though and would need a real master painter to get it right and not looking like a bad diy blowover completed on a wet afternoon.

masraum 03-28-2003 12:52 PM

Not everyone liked the car in Excellence, but I thought it was very cool. A well done flat/matte black car can be cool. Black accents including all black wheels.

Adam 03-28-2003 01:05 PM

Quote:

Dude - cover it in black velvet ! . . . then paint on an Elvis. :cool:
:D :D :D

Quote:

What do you guys think about a Flat or Satin black '73 Carrera RS replica?
Shawn, you're just trying to get out of painting that new rear bumper!

ZAMIRZ 03-28-2003 01:20 PM

Depending on how you do it, it could look badass or just plain ghetto/stupid. This is what I would say, a very good use of the application:

matte black 996 turbo

later,

amir

RallyJon 03-28-2003 01:25 PM

Wow--I'd love to see more pics of that 996TT! :eek:

I think you'd want to emulate the color of a recently vaselined Fuchs center. Flat--but with a subtle glow...

Rustbucket 03-29-2003 08:05 AM

Here are a few links that might help with the actual painting process...

hodrodding 1

and
hotrodding 2

Zeke 03-29-2003 11:23 AM

Primer. Nice wet coat. If you don't like it , then at least it's ready to paint.

RLJ 03-29-2003 11:42 AM

Satin Black Pwder Coat
 
I have seen a 40 Ford that the WHOLE body was black satin powder coating. It was a wagon and the new wood on the back was awsom looking.

As for a Porsche, go for it guy. If ya' don't love it later your not out much.


Look at some early pics of Curtis A's car with the dark paint and dark R Gruppe logo. I think that is what you are getting at and it looked "Great" on his car.


Randy Jones
1971 911

Jgordon 03-29-2003 02:13 PM

Blue Sky -- Beautiful shot of the Duck. I used to have a monster 750 Dark. Tell me that's not your garage though. If it is, I'm going to have to steal it. Carpeting?!?!?!?!?

thrown_hammer 03-31-2003 02:35 AM

Adam,
You caught me! Actually I discovered some bigger problems this weekend that require attn. I will post that dilema in another thread.
The wife isn't down with the flat black idea yet. She'll come around...

thrown_hammer 04-11-2003 08:29 AM

Here is my feeble attempt at a Satin blak 911. ;)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/black456+.jpg
I dig it. Anyone else?

thrown_hammer 04-11-2003 10:19 AM

John Deere "Blitz Black" is UV stable and $27.00 a gallon... Sounds like a plan.

RickM 04-11-2003 10:29 AM

Shawn, A few more angles and it will look like a stealth fighter.

thrown_hammer 04-11-2003 10:36 AM

Yeah, maybe I should paint a Triumph TR8 that color...

Eric Mckenna 04-11-2003 10:36 AM

Shawn,
Yes DO IT!
It will look killer good man... very mean...

Do it .. make it YOURS!!!! .. do do like everyone else, make it to where when people see that damn car they KNOW ..thats SHAWN's Car!!!
ya know what I mean bro..
DO IT!

Eric

thrown_hammer 04-11-2003 10:45 AM

I think this fall I will do it. I will collect some more rubber seals and stuff over the summer. I think it will look WICKED BAD with gloss black Carrera scripts over the Satin Black.

emcon5 04-11-2003 11:20 AM

Here is the primer 930 that was in the Excellence article.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/primer930.jpg

I like it.

Tom

thrown_hammer 04-11-2003 11:27 AM

I would like mine to be a little less rough around the edges but that is the general idea. What issue of Excellence was that? I may have to find that article.

BlueSkyJaunte 04-11-2003 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jgordon
Blue Sky -- Beautiful shot of the Duck. I used to have a monster 750 Dark. Tell me that's not your garage though. If it is, I'm going to have to steal it. Carpeting?!?!?!?!?
Oh, I wish that were mine...and the "garage", too. No, it's a Tucson, AZ dealership. :(

The (relatively) new Honda 919 also comes in flat black (probably a "me-too" response to the Duck's market success):

http://www.suburban-machinery.com/images/919-25B_10.jpg

http://www.suburban-machinery.com/images/919-25_16.jpg

http://www.hondasuzuki.com/cb919.jpg

Totally badass. I think I may do this to my 911 eventually, too. After all, the Targa bar is already flat black...

jyl 04-11-2003 01:57 PM

According to the Excellence article, the guy with the primer 930 had a hard time figuring out how to clean and treat the surface. He tried all kinds of waxes and treatments, before settling on a plastic scour pad. I like the concept, but seems like a satin clear-coat would be worth considering.

johncj8989 04-11-2003 02:03 PM

I say do it Hammer. I think it will look great

lateapex911 04-11-2003 09:41 PM

Get a bunch of satin or flat paints ahead of time as the whole weathering problem will be the undoing of it. Test, test and test! Find some scrap parts and start spraying.

I would suggest tha gloss highlight such as you are proposing will be key, or it will end up looking like a 69 Camaro that never got finished!

Tone on tone is cool.

Another concept would be doing the body in black metallic/pearl, and the lettering in gloss. Or vice versa! try it all!

Spray some samples and post shots here!

thrown_hammer 04-14-2003 03:40 AM

Jake,
The John Deere Blitz Black that the streetrod guys use is UV stable and will not fade. It dries as a Satin finish. I don't want it to look like the car in the Excellence article. That car looks a little too ratty for me. I want mine to look finished. Just mean...

Zendalar 04-14-2003 05:17 AM

I once saw this article (on television) where they coated a Porsche with this stealth material, they tested it and rode by a microwave radar and it did not show a thing. get some of that stuff :)

adamred 04-14-2003 06:02 AM

Is that 930 the Christian Garibaldi car? If so I've been up close and personal and can tell you that it doesn't look at all good. Primer is falling off, chipping, just looks like a half done car....he used to work at ******** here in NJ

Eric Mckenna 10-13-2003 07:38 AM

do you guys remember the old i wanna say mid 80's maybe 86 model year RUF turbo he used as a TEST BED for his motor mod's..
it was olive drab.. he called it the NATO!
it was sweet as hell!

Eric

Early_S_Man 10-13-2003 07:59 AM

Eric,

I remember the Ruf 'NATO' flat polyurethane Olive Drab test bed ... it was featured in a special issue of <b><i>Road & Track!</b></i> Wasn't it sans the tail, too?

Eric Mckenna 10-13-2003 08:58 AM

Warren,
I have never seen the R&T article on the NATO.
I know I had read about it in old Euro SPorts car mag back some time ago.
All I remeber is that it was one BAD looking machine! that could for sure back up the look.
I remeber the article talking about Alois and the Writer running it down the Autobahn and hitting a bird, they said it was just a grease spot at the 180+ they had been going whern they hit it. I wish I could find that old Mag..
but I am sure it's long gone...
haha!
Eric

Eric


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