Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)
-   Porsche 911 Technical Forum (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/)
-   -   Warning: If you're using the Dr. Buzinski Cig Lighter Mod.... (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1054754-warning-if-youre-using-dr-buzinski-cig-lighter-mod.html)

Jameel 03-11-2020 02:58 PM

Warning: If you're using the Dr. Buzinski Cig Lighter Mod....
 
Put a new USB charger in my socket today, turned on the car, and it just about caught fire. I had the usb charger rotated incorrectly so the side terminals were buried in the spacer sleeve, shorting out. I currently have the fresh air blower out and am assessing the damage. Will report back soon....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1583963852.jpg

timmy2 03-11-2020 03:24 PM

Damn Jameel, that sucks.
Lighter wire runs in harness to 6 pin female through body blower motor plug then through entire harness back to fuse 16. Likely the longest wire in the dash harness. Hopefully it didn’t melt a bunch of insulation on the other harness wires.

Jameel 03-11-2020 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmy2 (Post 10780247)
Damn Jameel, that sucks.
Lighter wire runs in harness to 6 pin female through body blower motor plug then through entire harness back to fuse 16. Likely the longest wire in the dash harness. Hopefully it didn’t melt a bunch of insulation on the other harness wires.

I just pulled the car into the garage to further assess. I may need to call you!

HarryD 03-11-2020 05:33 PM

For the uninitiated, what is this mod?

pmax 03-11-2020 05:52 PM

Ouch !

Tell us you took that pic after shutting things down.

Jameel 03-11-2020 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 10780446)
Ouch !

Tell us you took that pic after shutting things down.

Yes of course....but still panicking!!!

Jameel 03-11-2020 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryD (Post 10780410)
For the uninitiated, what is this mod?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/612310-dr-bulczynski-3-2-cigarette-lighter-mod-5-99-a.html

Jameel 03-11-2020 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 10780446)
Ouch !

Tell us you took that pic after shutting things down.

For entertainment value:

https://youtu.be/rs_E6gZG1-s

HarryD 03-11-2020 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameel (Post 10780451)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/612310-dr-bulczynski-3-2-cigarette-lighter-mod-5-99-a.html

Thanks!

MotorWorks 03-12-2020 09:16 AM

Damn and I was about to do that mod. Might have to rely on my USB battery power brick stuck between my seats a little longer.

MBAtarga 03-12-2020 10:18 AM

Jameel - can you post your issue on that other thread below? Better to bring this to light on that thread as well...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/612310-dr-bulczynski-3-2-cigarette-lighter-mod-5-99-a-2.html

Ctopher 03-12-2020 10:24 AM

I don’t understand the reason for this mod when a simple short USB charger like this works perfectly. I’ve had this in my car for 3yrs and had it once come out. The other times I had to use a USB cable to pull it out. No issue with the cig port, unless the 87+ cars got a different cigarette lighter.

AUKEY Car Charger, Mini USB Cell Phone Car Aapter 24W/4.8A Flush Fit Dual Port
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M6QODH2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


CTopher

darrin 03-12-2020 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 10781159)
Jameel - can you post your issue on that other thread below? Better to bring this to light on that thread as well...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/612310-dr-bulczynski-3-2-cigarette-lighter-mod-5-99-a-2.html

Jameel -- did you shorten the sleeve per the instructions contained in post #6 of the above thread before installing?

Jameel 03-12-2020 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrin (Post 10781259)
Jameel -- did you shorten the sleeve per the instructions contained in post #6 of the above thread before installing?

Not enough evidently! I'm not sure what changed this time around because I was running this exact setup for the last 3 years without issue. Just got unlucky I guess.

Jameel 03-12-2020 07:09 PM

Here's a video I did explaining how I think my short happened. Feel free to post corrections or ideas. This is just a theory....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/YiLjq5QBJ1E" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

RSBob 03-12-2020 07:11 PM

Sorry to hear about you letting the smoke out Jameel. You will spend many hours redoing wiring, but you will get it.

A previous owner of my late 72 T wired an alarm to the clock power. Half a wiring harness later Ralf Meany had everything working again. His office was loaded with 914 trophies and racing memorabilia


Hopefully yours will not be as dramatic.

Jameel 03-12-2020 07:16 PM

Thanks much Bob. I've worked on 90% of this car at this point, so I'm not afraid of tackling anything, but the hassle of tearing out the harness has me a bit ticked off, especially this time of year. Just itching to drive after four months of it being parked. Grr!! Someone should start a thread on what circuits are un-fused so we can all make our cars safe. Funny to mention the clock and a 72T! I know a local guy who had melted clock wires in his 72T!

RSBob 03-12-2020 07:25 PM

While you are at it, fuse your instrument lights, since they aren’t. All you have to do is change a bulb, and not turn off the light switch and bump the bulb socket against the metal dash opening and fzzzzzzzzzz. Ask me how I know. This was on a 73, but even through 89 are not fused.

Glad you are handy and now you’ll get intimate with wiring.

Jameel 03-12-2020 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSBob (Post 10781960)
While you are at it, fuse your instrument lights, since they aren’t. All you have to do is change a bulb, and not turn off the light switch and bump the bulb socket against the metal dash opening and fzzzzzzzzzz. Ask me how I know. This was on a 73, but even through 89 are not fused.

Glad you are handy and now you’ll get intimate with wiring.

We need a good tutorial thread on exactly what and where to add fuses that Porsche evidently forgot about.

RSBob 03-12-2020 07:51 PM

Here’s the thread on dash light fusing. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/105819-dash-lighting-fuse-installation.html

Hellraiser 03-13-2020 02:53 AM

I had the same thing happen once when using the original orange compressor to inflate a tyre.

49willard 03-13-2020 05:08 AM

Jamell,
Thanks for posting your experience. I just removed the Dr. insert. Just looking at the insert it looks like trimming back the longer "tails", i.e. shortening the insert should avoid contact with the clips. It would seem that doing that and never using a metal barrel adapter could be the fix. Am I missing something?
Note that I like having the plug in digital voltmeter and occassional use of a GPS. With the exception of the recommended additional fuses my 911 is totally stock.

Jameel 03-13-2020 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 49willard (Post 10782176)
Jamell,
Thanks for posting your experience. I just removed the Dr. insert. Just looking at the insert it looks like trimming back the longer "tails", i.e. shortening the insert should avoid contact with the clips. It would seem that doing that and never using a metal barrel adapter could be the fix. Am I missing something?
Note that I like having the plug in digital voltmeter and occassional use of a GPS. With the exception of the recommended additional fuses my 911 is totally stock.

I think thats a good approach.

49willard 03-13-2020 05:35 AM

Thanks for your response. Sharing information as you have is where the forum provides real value. The short video was much appreciated. You have helped me. A gold star for Jameel!

Quickstep192 03-13-2020 08:44 AM

For what it’s worth, these fuse holders are really nice for adding a in-line fuse. The connectors crimp like regular electrical connectors and the holder seals out dirt and water.

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/blue-sea-systems--in-line-waterproof-fuse-holder--11975885?recordNum=21

RSBob 03-13-2020 12:31 PM

Just doesn’t make sense to use the Dr B solution when there are now plenty commercially available products which do not have inherent risk. Flame on Levon.

Competizione 03-14-2020 02:14 PM

I guess I just don't understand the need to 'jimmy' a cheap product so that you can charge your phone while driving your 911. Lesson learned....

49willard 03-14-2020 04:17 PM

I trimmed back the insert.Very easy to do and I have about 5mm gap to the contact. Thanks again to Jameel for the heads up.

Evans, Marv 03-15-2020 09:22 AM

Trimming back the insert sounds like a good solution. I'm also wondering if an application of Plasti-Dip or Liquid Tape as an insulator would be durable enough to do the trick when applied to the surfaces/edges that are the problem.

Jack Stands 03-15-2020 01:26 PM

Lighter insert
 
These use to be supplied with Escort radar detectors. Don’t know if anyone still makes them available.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584303973.jpg

Teutonics 03-16-2020 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Stands (Post 10785288)
These use to be supplied with Escort radar detectors. Don’t know if anyone still makes them available.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584303973.jpg

That looks like it would be pretty simple to 3D model and print.

Jameel 04-28-2020 06:51 AM

So the 911 has been back in action for a few weeks now. Thanks to the excellent service from Dennis Powell I had my rebuilt harness section ready to splice back in less than a week!

Here's what I did. I traced the harness back to good clean wire, just past the wiper motor section. Sent the toasted one to Dennis, and he built a new one using my original fittings and some of his new molded 6-pins. I then spliced it in using butt splices and heat shrink tubing, staggering the joints for a compact package. Dennis was invaluable through the whole process! The harness looks totally stock at this point.

I did not replace the cigarette lighter, because it's a joke. Everyone should replace theirs in my opinion with a USB charger, or just disconnect the wiring from your's if you want the look to be correct. I installed one I found on Amazon, with bonus volt meter. Here's the cool part. It can be installed from inside the car! Pull the radio out and you can reach up between the chassis panels to access. I did have to open up the hole a little with a step drill for the charger to fit. Just a millimeter or so.

While I was in there I also added some inline fuses to the deck lid light (out back) terminal 58a on the light switch, ash tray light, and most importantly I had Dennis add an inline fuse to the cigarette lighter wire so it's protected. It's long enough that I tucked it over near the right fender for easy access.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588079717.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588079717.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588079717.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588079717.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588079717.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588079717.jpg

Mike Andrew 04-29-2020 07:41 AM

Is this USB mod made by Lucas?

Looks like a solid fix from an uncomfortable working position.

Jameel 05-08-2020 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Andrew (Post 10844740)
Is this USB mod made by Lucas?

Looks like a solid fix from an uncomfortable working position.

This is the one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PLQMTB5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:02 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.