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seanlonghi 09-27-2020 04:50 PM

67 912 R build $$ Looking for some stuff
 
I rescued a 67 built 68 912 from a field for $1000 USD

The story can be seen at https://www.912bbs.org/forum/threads/dived-into-the-912-game-now-what.46668/

So for anyone wanting to start with a rust bucket, I think I stopped count at $65,000. :)

I say that not to be a jerk, or to claim stupidity, (my budget originally was about $30,000). If you are wanting a SWB and come across a rusty project, and cant afford a high dollar car... BUY it. It wont make financial sense, but its a blank canvas and you will learn a tonne, and that's half the journey. Knowledge!

Anyways, I'm almost done, after 7 years. If anyone has any cool 911R stuff and parts can you PM me. I'm nearly broke now but still want to make this little SWB be the best 912R that Porsche never made.
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seanlonghi 09-27-2020 04:52 PM

Where we are now
 
After 7 years!

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jaycee1977 09-27-2020 04:53 PM

Nice. Is that colour Crayon?

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seanlonghi 09-27-2020 05:37 PM

Colour is light Ivory. Its the Original colour. My garage has LED lights

seanlonghi 09-27-2020 05:52 PM

912 r
 
Rob Joy in California has built several 1967 911R recreations over the past few decades. He created the molds off of one of the 24 911R's that he was commissioned to repair.
I wont divulge which one for privacy.
He has had his hands in person and either viewed or worked on 8 of the 24 models
There is a thread on Pelican on Bill Harris's car that Rob and Bill worked on.
I'd like to say after working with him for 2 years, he is a very artistic, knowledgeable man with much Porsche experience and race work with team Orbital and others.


I have also added the square weave carpet. Yes, I went that way. I actually want to drive it and have it be civilized enough to get coffee. Instead of a full out track style car.

I did go with a lot of R parts. The car is a 68 912 with a big bore kit and 125 hp. Narrow body. Its how I'd imagine a 912 R if I was alive in 1967 and ordered one back then. Although I envisioned a 4cam but can't afford that.

Corduroy Speedster seats covered at Intermeccanica
Correct R steering wheel.- Wood Steering Wheels | Vintage Steering Wheels | Horn Buttons | Porsche Steering Wheels and Hockey Pucks
Correct panels modeled off of of a 911R that was repaired 20 years ago.
911R custom narrow body front fenders
Original 911r Mold
RSR type hood with balsa and amber liner
911R Narrow front bumper to Werks spec
911R Narrow rear bumper to Werks spec
911R rear deck lid with amber liner
911R plastic door handles
911R rear tail lights with lights
911R engine lid grill
Rear lid black strap hold downs
Hood black strap hold downs
911R stainless lid hinges
911R acrylic vented ¼ window with trays
Acrylic rear window
Acrylic door windows with leather pulls straps
Leather door stops
911R front turn signal / side marker lights
911R style exhaust but based on the 4cyl.

All new Factory 1967 suspension.
Sitting on 15x6 Fuchs
Euro ride height.

Spartan interior. Radio delete.
And I went with the 2 piece 1968 only dash.
I did not do fiberglass doors. Just for safety.

The only think I'd like to do in the future is send the correct engine (on my shelf) to Benton and have him do a twin plug build massaged much like his personal 912.

seanlonghi 09-27-2020 06:09 PM

912r
 
I'm about 99% done. Just fixing a few things on the front and fitting fenders.
It's been a long journey from the Mouse Cage that everyone told me to run from.
But I stupidly - saw it through. (my wife, understanding, but happy it's nearly over)

I'm looking for some cool ideas, add-ons, 911r parts to make this build better. Hit me up!

Cage
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Blackbyrd 09-27-2020 08:53 PM

I recognized the fiberglass before I finished reading this. If Rob joy did this you got excellent stuff

seanlonghi 09-27-2020 09:03 PM

He is a busy man. And an artist first. But I feel like the stuff I have is almost as close to Porsche amber resin panels you could get.

Im lucky to get one of his last jobs.

NYNick 09-28-2020 04:18 AM

I LOVE the idea of this car. Take a look at this 911R tribute (and the price!).

How much does your car weigh? Is 125HP enough? This to me is he perfect idea for a 912. My hat is off to you! Great job.

Nick

https://www.gaswerksgarage.com/car/1967-porsche-911-r/

seanlonghi 09-28-2020 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 11042853)
I LOVE the idea of this car. Take a look at this 911R tribute (and the price!).

How much does your car weigh? Is 125HP enough? This to me is he perfect idea for a 912. My hat is off to you! Great job.

Nick

https://www.gaswerksgarage.com/car/1967-porsche-911-r/



Nick. I havent Weighed yet But Im hoping to be 1700 lbs. Its very light.

seanlonghi 09-29-2020 11:46 AM

912 r
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanlonghi (Post 11042700)
He is a busy man. And an artist first. But I feel like the stuff I have is almost as close to Porsche amber resin panels you could get.

Im lucky to get one of his last jobs.

Check out the 911 Carb Rain shields he made. Loads and loads of hours here. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1601408439.jpg




The Goal is to look like this when done! Will look like the real thing, with same Amber resin panels. Only difference is a 912 Vin and a 912 Powerplant. If Benton can get that 912 power to 165-175 HP in a few years, Ill be set.




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jac1976 09-29-2020 05:08 PM

Very nice work. Your knocking on the door of early Ts and Ls power wise with 2 fewer cylinders and less weight, so I bet it is fun. Did you consider a Polo?

seanlonghi 09-30-2020 03:48 PM

912 r
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jac1976 (Post 11045363)
Very nice work. Your knocking on the door of early Ts and Ls power wise with 2 fewer cylinders and less weight, so I bet it is fun. Did you consider a Polo?

Yes. Deans Polo is awesome. But very expensive. In 1967 Porsche had many 4 cam 4 cyl options with proven past race history. I haven't seen in person, but I've been told there is literature at the Porsche Museum about creating 912 race cars...even though the 912 outsold the 911 from 65 - 67 - into 68, the direction then was all 911.

In my opinion a 912 300lbs lighter than a 911 with a 4cam 180- 210 HP motor would have been wonderful for rally competition.

Im trying to create a 912 that in 1967 had I ordered it to compete, it likely would have had that Carrera 2 4 cam or an RSK motor.
But I just dont have the $$ to buy one now (or ever).
A polo is wonderful, but probably close to $50k.

So A twin plug 912 with a big bore kit is likely the future around $18,000.

jac1976 09-30-2020 05:53 PM

Outta my league, too. Since you were talking about a 4 cam 4 cyl, I thought the “less” expensive Polo might be in your wheelhouse. We can all dream and there are likely many that dream of a car like yours. Myself included. Just an awesome car.

seanlonghi 10-01-2020 05:59 AM

Thanks
7 years - It took a while. And not really the best investment. But Meh.

Jonny042 10-01-2020 06:58 AM

Awesome.

I think starting with a $1000 rust bucket is the wisest choice you can make. Imagine if you'd bought a $25k 912 and discovered poor prior repairs or hidden rust? You'd have had to replace just as many panels to get where you are now.

Great job, it's a lovely car. 7 years well spent.

seanlonghi 10-01-2020 02:35 PM

912 r
 
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Originally Posted by Jonny042 (Post 11047323)
Awesome.

I think starting with a $1000 rust bucket is the wisest choice you can make.
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Yes - I don't think you can find $1000 cars anymore. Maybe, but certainly more rare.
Albeit my budget was only about $25k -30K to complete my car.

I definitely was in the wheelhouse to be on budget. but I had both a metal worker and a painter that messed things up for me. The decision to make an R really was to take it to that next level given the amount of money I had invested.

I still see many 912s at $5000 and yes they are rusty, but really.....I still think they are worth it for a person to buy and start over, (even adding a 2.7, or a 3Litre, to make a hot rod) especially when said person doesn't have $50k or more upfront to go buy a 912- or a 911. You end up being into the car for more, but you learned, and the car is completely redone and you now know its done correctly.

Id buy a SWB LWB project 911 again now knowing what I have learned on these SWB cars and the differences from year to year from 65- 73.
Id do the rust bucket again, but it would have to be a 100% complete car.

jac1976 10-01-2020 06:43 PM

I wouldn’t second guess the investment of time or money for even a second. The ROI in experience, knowledge, pride, the finished product, etc. can’t be quantified. You, Johnny, Jamie, Chris and others provide a lot of inspiration and experiential direction for the forum.

fanaudical 10-01-2020 07:53 PM

Very cool project - my hat's off to you, sir. Looking forward to the finished product.

al lkosmal 10-01-2020 08:23 PM

That is what it is all about! Great vision with great execution.

regards,
al


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