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righteousrags88 10-28-2020 05:17 PM

Did I buy the right headers size?
 
I have a stock Row 84 Carrera with a 3.2 that I'm upgrading the exhaust on. So the general consensus is that I needed 1 5/8 size headers for the 3.2. Recently I purchased a set of headers and Im not 100% sure if I bought the correct size. They do measure 1 5/8in on the outside diameter however inside diamter is 1 1/2in. Did I screw up or are these the correct ones for me? Thanks

winders 10-28-2020 05:27 PM

Headers are tubing so they are measured by O.D. Yes, 1 5/8ths is a good size for the 3.2L engine.

frankoporsche 10-28-2020 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by righteousrags88 (Post 11080693)
I have a stock Row 84 Carrera with a 3.2 that I'm upgrading the exhaust on. So the general consensus is that I needed 1 5/8 size headers for the 3.2. Recently I purchased a set of headers and Im not 100% sure if I bought the correct size. They do measure 1 5/8in on the outside diameter however inside diamter is 1 1/2in. Did I screw up or are these the correct ones for me? Thanks

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righteousrags88 10-28-2020 05:55 PM

So to clarify, whenever a manufacturer states the size its always O.D. and never I.D. correct?

Walt Fricke 10-28-2020 06:05 PM

Tubing is normally specified as OD plus wall thickness. Like 1.75 x 0.90 for a common roll cage tubing size.

winders 10-28-2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by righteousrags88 (Post 11080746)
So to clarify, whenever a manufacturer states the size its always O.D. and never I.D. correct?

Yes, correct.

righteousrags88 10-28-2020 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Fricke (Post 11080759)
Tubing is normally specified as OD plus wall thickness. Like 1.75 x 0.90 for a common roll cage tubing size.

Did you mean to say ID plus wall thickness? because otherwise wouldnt the OD already account for the wall thicknes?

Let me rephrase my original question; Since my ID is 1.5" and OD 1 5/8" would they still be considered as "1 5/8in" headers thereby making it the correct headers for my 3.2?

righteousrags88 10-28-2020 06:21 PM

I apologize if I sound thick headed

winders 10-28-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Fricke (Post 11080759)
Tubing is normally specified as OD plus wall thickness. Like 1.75 x 0.90 for a common roll cage tubing size.

To be clear, tubing is specified by O.D. *and* wall thickness.

I have yet to see a header manufacturer specify wall thickness unless asked.

winders 10-28-2020 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by righteousrags88 (Post 11080773)
I apologize if I sound thick headed

No, you don't. Just remember that headers are measure by the O.D. so your headers are 1 5/8ths.

righteousrags88 10-28-2020 07:01 PM

Thank You @winders

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RarlyL8 10-29-2020 05:31 AM

It is good to note wall thickness as different materials may use significantly different wall thickness. For example, our 321 stainless headers use 0.049" wall thickness due to the strength and heat tolerance of the material. Most 304 headers use 0.065" and some mild steel headers can go up to 0.125". This is a tremendous difference in ID, let alone weight. The exhaust port size on the 3.2L Carrera engine most closely matches the 38mm ID typical of 1-5/8" stainless headers, which is why 1.5" primary SSI and headers are considered too small for that application.


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