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BGCarrera32 04-24-2003 11:37 AM

Finally getting somewhere...part 2 (project photos)
 
Well, spending way too much time in the garage lately.

Since the front underhood area is mostly done, it was time to get at the clutch and a few other doo dads at the rear. This turned into repacking CV axles, brakes, bushings, trailing arm cleanup, oh, and refinishing the engine bay and detailing the engine. Even started replating parts, bolts, and brackets.

Here's the engine bay before:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa..._underdeck.JPG

And after:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...underdeck1.JPG

and another with some wire harness retaping...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...underdeck2.JPG

Here's the engine...new injectors, spritzed up fuel rails, replated clamps, resprayed engine sheet metal, bead blasted intakes and anything else that comes off...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/bdg_redo1.JPG

And the camber brace...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...mber_brace.JPG

And my imitation big reds!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...rakes_redo.JPG


I wish I was done with this and driving, but now its on to the rear suspension, and then I have to slap it all back together...

-BG:D

pbs911 04-24-2003 11:47 AM

Looks great. Love the orange. The "while your in theres" are really worth while. The problem is not knowing were to stop!

dickster 04-24-2003 11:51 AM

thats impressive, but i wouldnt wanna drive it after that:D

IROC 04-24-2003 11:55 AM

What shade of orange is that? Looks close to mine (Continental Orange)...

Orange is the best 911 color, BTW. :>)

Mike

BGCarrera32 04-24-2003 12:07 PM

Between the flourescent lights in the garage, the camera flash, and whatever else, its showing up orange for some reason. Its actually 027 Guards Red. Tricky to photograph...it doesn't look orange in person.

skinnerd 04-24-2003 01:12 PM

BG:
Kah-rumba!!! Geez, it's easy to see what you guys do during the long winters in Minnesota. Unbelievable transformation to say the least. 500% improvement over the "before" pictures. You could write a "how to" primer on sprucing up your 911. Enjoying the updates and explanations behind what you have done.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

rob justice 04-24-2003 01:39 PM

the engine looks superb - is that the result of just bead blasting? or have you had the inlets etc painted? Are the fuel rails new or just recoated? is the gearbox just as clean?

Rob McKibbon 04-24-2003 10:31 PM

Beautiful Job!!!!
You're an inspiration.

IROC 04-25-2003 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BGCarrera32
Between the flourescent lights in the garage, the camera flash, and whatever else, its showing up orange for some reason. Its actually 027 Guards Red. Tricky to photograph...it doesn't look orange in person.
Ooops, sorry. My orange car looks red under certain lighting, too.

Either way it looks great. I am in the process of a similar project to yours as I am swapping a 3.2 into my '76. I also cleaned and re-painted the engine compartment, but mine doesn't look as good as yours, so I won't post any pics to avoid embarassment. :)

Mike

dean 04-25-2003 03:55 AM

You have been spending waay to much time in the garage;)
It looks great although I noticed a spec of dirt that the front tire kicked up.:D

BGCarrera32 04-25-2003 08:10 AM

rob justice-

The intake manifolds, throttle body, air vane box, ac bracket, etc. were cleaned up in a glass bead blasting cabinet at work. Its suprising how much crud comes off of them and how much they shine up. The trick will be to see how long it takes them to get dirty again (probably not long). I opted not to clear coat the stuff as I am weary of clear turning yellow and flaking off from the engine heat. I also took extra steps to make sure all of those little beads (like sand) are out of everything...

The fuel rails were bead blasted and resprayed with an enamel. Not real fuel resistant, but I didn't feel like cracking the hoses apart and replating the rails...if I messed up a hose it could easily be another $200 into this project...

Somebody along the line rebuilt the gearbox and did the gray spraypaint all over it. Looks o.k., it is clean now anyway.

-BG

kstylianos 04-25-2003 11:09 AM

BG,

What are you using to replate/clean up the hardware (screws, nuts, washers)?

I'm at the same point you are, just finished painting the engine compartment and received the rear suspension parts back from the p-coaters.

Time to start putting it all back together.

GeorgeK 04-25-2003 11:41 AM

Oh boy, does that ring a bell...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/23.03-14s2.jpg

GeorgeK

BGCarrera32 04-25-2003 12:03 PM

The first thing I did was take all of my hardware, throw it in a big cup, and fill it up with White Vinegar. Let it sit overnight. You'd be amazed how much crud- cosmoline, grease, even the plating...will float off the hardware as it sits. Vinegar is basically diluted glacial acidic acid, which will cut a lot of junk. After that I let it sit in POR 15 metal ready, but if you take the stuff to replate it the plater will most likely want to strip it anyway. Most of the platers I found didn't want to help me, mainly because they can lose small parts and guys bring in bags of crap full of grease and junk and expect it all back pretty. My stuff (a big ziploc bag full) ran about $60, ask for "strip and yellow zinc (chromate)".

BGCarrera32 04-25-2003 12:12 PM

Here's a shot I grabbed quick of my eccentirc bolts/etc. from the rear end...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/bg_bolts2.JPG

RickM 04-25-2003 12:37 PM

I did the same ...had a plater do Yellow (Zinc) Dye Chromate.

North Coast Cab 04-25-2003 03:42 PM

I had lunch today at a Chinese place that wasn't as clean.

JG

rob justice 04-26-2003 12:10 AM

BGCarrera32 - that picture of the front hub - you might want to think about placing a block of wood between the axle stand and car - the floor edge flange is pretty easily damaged - just a thought. The resto looks superb though, my engine is getting dropped Monday and you've given me plenty to think about

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/DCP00934.jpg

kstylianos 04-26-2003 03:08 PM

BG, They look great. Thanks for the tip.

Benson 06-13-2003 05:47 PM

:eek: Looks like NASA quality work BG.
Your pictures are really good to. what kind
of camera do you use?

Still looking and praying!!

Schrup 06-13-2003 06:55 PM

I love threads like these, they give me something to aspire to. Your work is excellent, very impressive. That reminds me I need to clean my bathtub. :D

350HP930 06-13-2003 07:38 PM

My compliments on your fine work and attention to detail.

My project has just started.

http://anthonyrawson.com/Cars/930Eng...gine_small.jpg

Randy Webb 07-02-2003 10:38 AM

"had a plater do Yellow (Zinc) Dye Chromate" the fasteners.

- That can change the torque relations, so be careful.

BGCarrera32 07-02-2003 10:47 AM

ah...marginal at best. Nothing that would affect safety. If you strip what was factory and replace back to same thickness, +.002 ...

KTL 07-02-2003 10:50 AM

I thought I was clean crazy!

Your motor, engine bay, and even the freakin' fasteners are outstanding! :eek:

Nicely done. SmileWavy

1fastredsc 07-02-2003 10:54 AM

(words can't express what those pictures represent) :eek:

911pcars 07-02-2003 11:03 AM

[b/"had a plater do Yellow (Zinc) Dye Chromate" the fasteners.

- That can change the torque relations, so be careful."[/b]

The zinc plating process creates hydrogen embrittlement. In critical parts (suspension, especially), the solution is to subject such parts to a stress relieving process; basically a long heat soak at elevated temperatures.

Sherwood Lee
http://members.rennlist.org/911pcars

BGCarrera32 07-02-2003 11:21 AM

I'm not disagreeing per say. My point tho was that when you have an M12 10.9 bolt on a 19 year old car with crud all over the flimsy radius arms, and the last bonehead to do an alignment used an air ratchet to reef the pee out of the eccentric bolts...if they haven't snapped by now cleaning them up and tumble plating them in a drum prolly ain't gonna hurt it any... If people are that concerned, spend the $18 a bolt the factory wants and replace.

As for the rest of the fasteners, they're small for holding on fuel rails, hose clamps, etc...non stressed stuff.

I also snipped the brake rotor wear sensors off and chucked those too. Better off doing periodic inspections of all your stuff every so often and before DE's or spirited drives.

I guess in my book, its a moot point. I'm gonna take the $ I saved and buy your shift kit, which might save my tranny some day...;)

911pcars 07-02-2003 12:06 PM

"I guess in my book, its a moot point. I'm gonna take the $ I saved and buy your shift kit, which might save my tranny some day...'

Well, in that case, sh$t-can what I said. You know best ;)

Sherwood

BGCarrera32 07-02-2003 12:15 PM

Sherwood- while we're on the subject, how long of an install can I expect on your kit? I have the center console already removed, and a factory short shift kit installed...

Thanks-
BG

911pcars 07-02-2003 01:53 PM

BG,
I'll answer your question off-line so as not to hijack your thread.

Sherwood

Randy Webb 07-02-2003 03:43 PM

BTW, I was thinking about the surface smoothness of the threads not the size increase. We had a very scary fastener expert give a talk at a PCA meeting a couple years ago....

I think we can all agree that "boneheads reefing the pee out of the eccentric bolts" (slight paraphrase of your great characterization) really uts all these concerns in perspective. I'd like to reef the pee out of the boneheads... but I digress.

Superman 07-02-2003 03:46 PM

You missed a spot.:D


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