Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Full Send Society
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Chicago, IL.
Posts: 1,782
Garage
Dropping ride height several inches

I’ve read the Pelican how to, and scoured the forums and from what I can gather I can lower the car about an inch myself using those approaches, but what if I want to drop the car several inches.

My 77S is at 26” at the front and 27” at the rear which is absurd. The roads in Chicago ain’t great but this ain’t no off road safari car and it looks preposterous.

So how can I drop the car 2” at the front and 2.5” at the rear? Is this something I should just have the alignment shop do as that will be needed for sure after adjustment.





Last edited by Showdown; 01-31-2021 at 02:26 PM..
Old 01-31-2021, 08:38 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Cory M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 4,870
You'll probably have to reindex the torsion bars. I would take it to a Porsche specialist, it's not that complex but it's not something for the average alignment shop. If it is a US model there is a half inch steel spacer on top of the shocks front and rear you should remove.
Old 01-31-2021, 10:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
RETIRED
 
Joe Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: BOULDER Colorado
Posts: 39,412
Garage
A lot depends on tire width and whether you’re willing to roll your fenders adjust rear camber etc. you’ll also need an alignment to go past 25.5 inches or more.

Best to talk to an alignment shop for a consultation. Corner balancing is also good idea. YYMV.
Old 01-31-2021, 10:11 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
RETIRED
 
Joe Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: BOULDER Colorado
Posts: 39,412
Garage
Re-indexing is rear only. The front you have to worry about bump steer issues. There are ideas your experienced alignment guy will discuss with you.

New bushings, turbo tie rods and torsion bars may be in your future.

I love spending other people’s money :^)
Old 01-31-2021, 10:24 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Get off my lawn!
 
GH85Carrera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 84,896
Garage
You will need a full 4 wheel alignment for any ride height change even close to that. And expect very little suspension travel and a rough ride.
__________________
Glen
49 Year member of the Porsche Club of America
1985 911 Carrera; 2017 Macan
1986 El Camino with Fuel Injected 350 Crate Engine
My Motto: I will never be too old to have a happy childhood!
Old 01-31-2021, 12:17 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
HarryD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 12,650
My car was lowered, aligned and corner balanced by a local shop that sets up Porsche race cars. My fender lips are 24 1/2 inches all round. The suspension is responsive and rides great.

It is a 1973.5 narrow body similar to yours.

My suspension has turbo torsion bars (21 mm front/26 mm rear).
Front and rear 19 mm adjustable sway bars.
I replaced my rear spring plates bushes with Neatrix parts. All other bushes are stock and original.
Bilstein HD fronts and Sport rears.
For the street I use 16x6 Fuchs with 205/55-16 Continental Extreme Contact Sport as tires and auto cross on 15x6 cookie cutters with Hoosier SM’s 205/50-15 tires.
__________________
Harry
1970 VW Sunroof Bus - "The Magic Bus"
1971 Jaguar XKE 2+2 V12 Coupe - {insert name here}
1973.5 911T Targa - "Smokey"
2020 MB E350 4Matic

Last edited by HarryD; 01-31-2021 at 01:45 PM..
Old 01-31-2021, 01:42 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
It's a 914 ...
 
stownsen914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ossining, NY
Posts: 4,704
If you're not inclined to do it yourself, definitely take it to a Porsche specialist. Or you're likely to be unimpressed with the outcome, starting with how they jack up the car.
Old 01-31-2021, 04:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: behind the redwood curtain, (humboldt county) california
Posts: 1,433
Garage
Get back to stock, then make compromises for your goals

As you have undoubtedly noticed, there are a lot of takes on ride height/lowering.
If you don't like where the height is, first go back to factory specs - they likely spent hundreds of thousands of "dollars" making design choices/compromises for the intended market, comfort, stability, tire life, predictable handling, maximum grip and "feel"
The complexity of weight transfer, ride height, wheel rate, tire adhesion, camber changes, toe changes are all very interrelated: spring rates, shocks and tie grip all factor in as well. This is highly complex, especially when balancing the front/rear dynamics.

So first, get back to stock specs for wheel center to torsion bar center - the factory method. This rules out tire height, (fender height doesn't get it).
Get the corners weight balanced and aligned. Then figure out what you are ging to do to improve the handling and what compromises you are willing to do to get there, ride comfort, adhesion, tire life, handling predictability.

If you are only interested in appearance, "stance", all of the above is irrelevant.

The easiest "drop" is tire size, you can maintain factory geometry by using a shorter tire, sacrificing a bit of ground clearance, tire life and comfort.
When ride height is reduced to the point of shock, or suspension bottoming out, comfort and predictable handling are compromised.

I'm going for shorter tires factory wheel center to TB height, sport rubber bushings, HD & Sport Bilsteins, corner weight and align - going for a canyon carver, occasional track day car.

Sorry for the rant, I'm sometimes too impressed with my fantasy,
chris
Old 01-31-2021, 06:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
RETIRED
 
Joe Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: BOULDER Colorado
Posts: 39,412
Garage
There are two factory ride heights. Euro and US. US is Federal mandate for bumper and head light height aka “safety”.

Once it leaves the lot you can do anything you want unless officer friendly takes exception.
Old 01-31-2021, 07:07 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
AndreasK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 232
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by GH85Carrera View Post
And expect very little suspension travel and a rough ride.
Or, drop it and get the suspension travel and ride feel the car was intended for Euro height is the height the car was designed around.

__________________
--------
1977 911s
Old 02-01-2021, 01:10 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:28 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.