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Lyndon302 10-05-2021 02:35 PM

4 speed parts issue questions
 
I have ordered dog teeth for a 912 ( 901/02) 7/65.
The parts are 101 550 315.
Pelican inform me it's for a 5 SPD and will not fit a 4 SPD
They have no parts for a 4Spd
I'm after second. Third and fourth dog teeth.
Is it the correct part or am I in trouble.
Thanks lyndonhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1633473352.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1633473779.jpg
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Matt Monson 10-06-2021 05:07 AM

They are wrong, but in the process you dodged a bullet. Don’t get the German oem ones. They lack backcut. Get Rausch and Spiegle.

Lyndon302 10-06-2021 05:14 AM

Fantastic.
Been back and forth for over a week on this.
Backcut. ??
Thanks lyndon

Lyndon302 10-06-2021 05:27 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1633526714.jpg
Conformation
2nd 3rd and 4th gear. For my 4 SPD. 1965.
Also worth the extra dollars.
I'm in Australia so I want to get it right.
Thanks Lyndon

Matt Monson 10-06-2021 05:31 AM

The backcut accounts for the curvature of the synchro ring, allowing it to properly sit inside the teeth. The German ones are square cut and pinch the synchro when you install it, making it too small, and unable to grab the operating sleeve with enough friction when you select a gear.

djpateman 10-06-2021 06:44 AM

The 901/902/911 and 914 gearboxes are nearly all the same internally. A 4 speed box is the same as a 5 speed box but with "first" gear missing and the gear ratios shuffled. The mainshaft is the key. A 4 speed with have the fixed gear as A (first gear), while the 5 speeds generally have the fixed gear as F or GA (2nd gear). Essentially these are 4 speed boxes with the additional gear tacked on with the reverse gear; both of which are outside of the intermediate plate in the cover section.

Lyndon302 10-06-2021 07:20 AM

Thanks all good info.
Also require one of these.
Then I have all 4 gears covi.
Lyndonhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1633533607.jpg

Lyndon302 10-06-2021 03:34 PM

I've been in touch with the manufacturer in Colorado.
Of interest the 4spd has a unique 1st gear
The dog teeth are different the 5 SPD.
It rotates in the opposite direction. So it's a different part
All others the same as the 5 SPD
Of course this part is out stock ?? ( 1st )
Lyndon


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