Should I get a CTC still?

[smiles11]

I have a scheduled appointment to complete the Classic Technical Certificate next week at a classic partner dealer. I’m starting to wonder if I actually need it given the information I already have on the car. My idea to have it completed was more or less geared towards my own personal memento on the car than anything else. I don’t mind spending the $500 for it, but I just wonder if it will be redundant. What are some of your experiences with having a CTC completed on your car? What’s the process like?

Should I still get it given the information I already have on the car? I have the original documents from new with matching serial number & engine number; plus a PPS showing transmission type 911/01 which is also a match.









Thoughts?

[djpateman]

The CTC would really be a waste of money. I get Kardex for the early cars, and write up my own CoA-type of report for the 70 to 80 cars that has more information than the old CoA or the PPS. I combine the data that I purchase with details from the cars (paint code plate and compliance decal), and details from other documents such as the window sticker and the maintenance record book to provide as complete a document as possible. It is unofficial, but does come factory records. Additional details that I add are the sales model #, production #, sometimes more dates, key code, distributor & port of entry when available, and option codes.
Email me for more info.

[dreichman]

That sounds like a great idea. Would you mind posting one of your compilation documents? I would really like to see/understand how you present all the information.

[djpateman]

PM sent with email instructions

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by smiles11

I have a scheduled appointment to complete the Classic Technical Certificate next week at a classic partner dealer. I’m starting to wonder if I actually need it given the information I already have on the car. My idea to have it completed was more or less geared towards my own personal memento on the car than anything else. I don’t mind spending the $500 for it, but I just wonder if it will be redundant. What are some of your experiences with having a CTC completed on your car? What’s the process like?





Thoughts?

This document is the predecessor to the CTC. I would not think the CTC would add anything tot he party.

[djpateman]

Harry, not exactly. The CoA was obsoleted and replaced with the cheap (PPS) option, and the expensive (CTC) option. The CoA provided the engine & transmission #'s freely, but the Factory decided that was contributing to fakes and determined it wanted proof from the owners. So the PPS may require photo proof of the numbers to be included on the certificate. The CTC goes a step further, and requires the car to be presented for inspection. However, the CTC will only report the numbers if they are present when the inspection is done. The real purpose of the inspection appears to be finding imperfections in the car they think should be addressed, and thus to gain more revenue from the client. If your original engine or transmission have been lost, then the Factory will not provided you with that information; the solution is my report, but even there, if the data is not in the production record (such as the transmission #) then it is nearly impossible to obtain.

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by djpateman

Harry, not exactly. The CoA was obsoleted and replaced with the cheap (PPS) option, and the expensive (CTC) option. The CoA provided the engine & transmission #'s freely, but the Factory decided that was contributing to fakes and determined it wanted proof from the owners. So the PPS may require photo proof of the numbers to be included on the certificate. The CTC goes a step further, and requires the car to be presented for inspection. However, the CTC will only report the numbers if they are present when the inspection is done. The real purpose of the inspection appears to be finding imperfections in the car they think should be addressed, and thus to gain more revenue from the client. If your original engine or transmission have been lost, then the Factory will not provided you with that information; the solution is my report, but even there, if the data is not in the production record (such as the transmission #) then it is nearly impossible to obtain.

Thanks for the clarification.