Trivia - what does "SC" stand for?

What does the "SC" (as in 911SC) really stand for? I've read everything from "standard car" to "super Carrera".

But wouldn't it be an abbreviation for a German term?



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'71 911E with Webers
Golden Gate Region PCA

S is for recognition of the great car the 911S, C for carrera (race in spanish)The combination was used for the latest and greatest production car at the time ! Still, after all these years, a thoroughly modern car ( except for the wonderful noise of the 3.0 liter powerplant).

Targa from the legendary Targa Florio race!

[This message has been edited by ras911 (edited 05-17-2001).]

That answer makes the most sense so far for "SC"...

Did you know "targa" also means "shield"? I've read that they called it the Targa because the roll bar was likened to a shield. That one seems a little flimsy... I like the Targa Florio explanation better.

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'71 911E with Webers
Golden Gate Region PCA

SC--"Sucks Cash"..."SuperCar"..."SpinsClockwise"...

Sorry, I got a little carried away. "Super Carrera".

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Clay McGuill '66 912, '97 Jeep Cherokee www.geocities.com/the912guy

I still like "Snatch Catcher" the best.

I think that "Super Carrera" has been verified as correct. I think it stems from the 77 Carrera3.0 as the SC had the same engine with the "Super" body and options.

Snatch Catcher did make me laugh pretty hard though.

Nick.

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Nick Shumaker
1982 911SC Coupe
nickshu@yahoo.com
PCA -- Rocky Mtn. Region

Yes, SC stands for "Super Carrera"

Funny how many people think "S" stands for "Sport."

- roGER

On this subject, I had always heard that the S in 911S was for Super and that SC was Super Carrera.

GruvSyco
'74 911S Coupe

I thought Mr. Pate would have chimed in by now....
SC *must* stand for World Domination!

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Doug
'81 SC Coupe (aka: "Blue Bomber")
Canada West Region PCA
members.home.net/zielke/911SC.htm

SC: "Sorta cool"

Hello

AS far i recall that SC was standing for Super Comfort.

In fact ouer beloved 2,7 RS Carrera startet live as comfortable orientatet and loaded 911.

Just recalling the last edition from the 356 also named "SC".

So the Chassisnumber from the Carrera RS shows the SC as type.

But this has a special reason:

Piech was out then and allready working partially for Mercedes while he made his engenier Degreee ( Yes when he co made the 901 engine he even hadn´t a master or technician degree, he just said where to go and drove the engine department grazy by demanding more power and with more solidity ) at the TU Wien.

So the racing force was out of the house.

The Carrera RS startet live under cover as a playfield from some racefanatic engeniers.

They just had to made facts before the booking department get the wind in there nose and would stop the project.

So all the blueprints showed a new luxory car with better sounddeadening and a slightly improved engine that wasn´t as peaky like the 2,4 S but had equal power.

To quite down the car the chassis recived heavy construction on reinforcements and to make the heavy car handle not to hairy the rear got the then brandnew 215/60 low profile.

Even brochures where made for the new luxory liner........

Some where out and asking all supliers what they could offer to lighten up the parts and the enginebranch used to built up some heavy engines just to proof the new Nicasil P&C on there limit and speed up development.

Oh wounder one of that engines made it into a new handbuilt SC Chassis. To make the mesurements and put in all the diagnostics the car had to be bare to get the later wights on the axle. Well testdrivers are not costumers and will not complay about to loud....Funny thing was that the testdrivers wmade extra turns without any equipment and make a set up and startet finding better times each week. The bookkeepers didn´t see whats up and one day the bomb blow up somehow. The SComfort was turned to a SCarrera and the bookkeepers did understand why Weissach was so far away. If they went out there someone called up there to hide some projects.

BTW Weissach was still in building up then and only testground while the race department was spread all over Stuttgart and suburb.

Grüsse

I have read a couple of places and have heard some engineer from Porsche quoted as saying that SC didn't stand for anything, it was just a factory designation that was a logical progression from the "S" model. That's why the factory liturature never refers to what "SC" stands for, but explains all other designations (such as targa, RSR, etc). I don't know one way or another, but this is the explanation that makes sense to me.

i've never seen anything from any reliable source that has convinced me what "SC" was really intended to mean, if anything.

that's not to say any of the above is not right. I've just never been convinced.

i'd love see quotes from reliable literature on it, though. if anyone has that, speak up!

Hello

Well on the 356 there are following thorys:

SC stands for the Super engine while thc C was for the bodystyle ( remember pre A / A /B /C ? ). The previous B T6 had the same body and the only why to show the new car to the public where the new steel rims and that small "C" on the rear. The driver just know it as the Switchboard changed and the armrest,....just typical Porsche evolution.

However the 356 was on his last stage and the most comfortable 356 ever ( OK back then ).

Later on the 914 you could order the C and the S package. The C was the chrome, Vinyl sail covers, better carpet, center consule with seat cusion, leather steering wheel, two tone horn and additional lights.

The S was the anti roll bars, wide tires and rims ( later alloys ), two tone horn, additional lights.


What the SC means on the 2,7 RS ? I think it was just used to make a better Super. Whatever the C was standing for was unclear as the SC ( Super Comfort ) was used to pull the car out off the shooting line. The others has seen SC as Super CARrera.

So that simple SC stands fore more than one thing it is a wordgame that also refelects what happend to the car later. Most of them where built up to SC specs witch was a 2,4 S interioer and a bit heavier then the 2,4 S.
Thje Lightwight SC where named RS for Rennsport ( Well RSL was light and RSH was homologation while RSR was race ).

Oh just remeber the next generation was named SCRS and even later in 1984 that SCRS returned as own type 954. The following year the 954 had been Rally Dakar winner with AWD.

How does this row in line ?

Well it is hard to proof what i picked up in childhood. maybe i do remember things wrong or mix it up. Later i met some interessting people but didn´t ask the old storys. Sometimes they where talking about "past times" and you heard similar things from a other point off view.

Ther are allways the same stories remembered, burnt in highlights about little things, 917 drivers with wet pants....Wütherich wo turned mad, Dr. Porsche geting loud, the young Porsches runing around in the factory and feared only "Dotty" an "Ilse". Butzi who didn´t like the "stupid shool" and then put in a waldorf shool. ( Well maybe you know Antrosophie by Rudolf Steiner ). Young Piech who wasn´t interesstet in other things like technical stuff selecting some engeniers as his family and didn´t talk to his mother. Everyone said he is autistic ( lets say a idiot ) and needs a special shool treatment. Fritz Huschke and all those race drivers.

All those storys are collectet by Tobias Aichele and some other Authors and can make it into a Book one day.

Some storys are allready written some are even to read in the net.

I think Dr. Kondradsheim did some enlighting on the real RS story while T.Aichele reflects more the early years in his Mhytos 911.

However has such a book should have read it.

My quote is Goehte from Faust:

"Was du schwarz auf weiss hast gemachst du wohl nach Hause tragen"

I´ll try to find a good translation.

However just enjoy my woundering stories. Don´t see it to serious if it will hurt your fundamentals. They just show an other opinion and i do never claim to know all or have the holy truth in my words.

I´m just closer to some things not only by distance also by heart.

I´ll never see a old Porsche without remembering my childhood.

But I remeber Porsche workers.

Grüsse

Standard Car. I think it was because for those years in which it was produced, there wasn't all that much variation in what was available in a 911, both here and abroad. I read that somewhere, but don't recall where...

Hello

Was browsing, but didn´t find much online.

The Michael Keyser story is a good reflection how it was in the old times.

http://platz.com/wma/story72.html

Weel thats racers stuff.....But in 72 the RS Prototypes where on there way and pre production was planed....

Had been a child then as my birthdate was when the Who played live in Sheffield and G.Hill won a race while J.Clark won a other race. Hill heard: "I´m very glad it was you that won", while Clark was filled with my favorite drink.

I know this is a bit off topic but who knows it ?

Grüsse

( Addictet do wordgames )


Absolutly OFF TOPIC only for the hard guys:

OH forgot Goethe war gut:


MEPHISTOPHELES

And closely in your manual look,
Hereby may you be quite aware
That all he utters standeth in the book;
Yet write away without cessation,
As at the Holy Ghost’s dictation!

STUDENT

This, Sir, a second time you need not say!
Your counsel I appreciate quite;
What we possess in black and white,
We can in peace and comfort bear away.


Original german:

Daß er nichts sagt, als was im Buche steht;
Doch Euch des Schreibens ja befleißt,
Als diktiert’ Euch der Heilig Geist!

SCHÜLER. Das sollt Ihr mir nicht zweimal sagen!
Ich denke mir, wie viel es nützt;
Denn, was man schwarz auf weiß besitzt,
Kann man getrost nach Hause tragen.

http://www.bartleby.com/19/1/4.html

http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/hum_303/faust.html

Roland...you are a gentleman and a scholar!

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Doug
'81 SC Coupe (aka: "Blue Bomber")
Canada West Region PCA
members.home.net/zielke/911SC.htm

I thought "SC" stood for Sunroof Coupe. I can't remember where I heard it though.

In '78 the new model designation 911SC had all the options that the previous year 911 Super Carrera had. In '78 the Super Carrera name was dropped and the 911SC designation established. I believe 911SC was a continuation of the 911 Super Carrera line. So...I think (starting in '78) 911SC stands for 911 Super Carrera.
Bob W.

[This message has been edited by Bob W. (edited 05-21-2001).]

Hello

That was the Thunderbird SC

Grüsse