"root cause" of problem found!

[azasadny]

I wanted to give you the “final update and root cause resolution” for the cold start problems I was having. The warm up regulator (also known as WUR or pressure control regulator) was bad and had to be replaced ($329.00 for new Bosch part) and 3 hours of labor to troubleshoot fuel system, CIS, ignition, wiring, install WUR and readjust mixture, idle and pressure, for a grand total of $558 (including tax). The car was in the shop for 8 days and starts easily now. I still need to fix the hand throttle and the part I need is on order. All in all, I’m very satisfied with the quality of repairs and I believe the 3 hours labor charge to be very reasonable considering the fact that the wiring was in such bad shape. I could recommend the shop and I’m glad I’ve found a place where I can take the car when I’m in over my head and need a professional to take a look. Thanks for all of your help, I really appreciate it!

[Joe Bob]

Hmmmm, cold start problems.....the WUR should have one of the first things to look at. "I" changed out a WUR in fifteen minutes.

Oh well, at least it is running to your satisfaction.

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

If you are happy and satisfied that the mechanic checked your entire system, 3 hours is not unreasonable labour, IMHO. Some mechanics are so backed up they cannot get to a job for a long time. A local wrench told us that he would be happy to check a wiring harness on a truck that was 300 miles from home. He apologized that he was so backed up and over promised that he would not look at the harness for two days. The truck limped to the next town.

[GSpreeman]

I used to be a management consultant and just finished my MBA at Columbia University. "Root cause" is a big buzz phrase but it's just consulting babble. The folks who would charge you to find the root cause just rename things:
Root Cause = Cause
Cause = Contributing factor

It's like the roofing company we just hired. They can't put on a new roof but rather, they can install a new "roof system." What CR@P!

[azasadny]

GSpreeman,

I agree. I'm in IT (network and computer security) and "root cause" is one of my least favorite terms and I used it to get attention (like "win-win"). We bought a "pool entry system" this spring and it's a very expensive ladder! Whenever you call something a "system", just add a "0" to the price!!

[JackT]

I paid $390 to have the WUR Replaced here is South Carolina where everything seems to be a little cheaper when fixing a 911. My wrench let me order the WUR myself. It cost me $189. from Vertex. This was before I started dealing with Pelican Parts.

[rstoll]

8 days and a 3 hr. labor charge = 7 days of test driving!!!! Wooohooo!!

[cab83_750]

Originally posted by mikez
Hmmmm, cold start problems.....the WUR should have one of the first things to look at. "I" changed out a WUR in fifteen minutes.

Oh well, at least it is running to your satisfaction.

I 10,000% agree with Mike!

[cowtown]

Originally posted by GSpreeman
I used to be a management consultant and just finished my MBA at Columbia University. "Root cause" is a big buzz phrase but it's just consulting babble. The folks who would charge you to find the root cause just rename things:
Root Cause = Cause
Cause = Contributing factor

It's like the roofing company we just hired. They can't put on a new roof but rather, they can install a new "roof system." What CR@P!

Speaking as an MBA myself, I just have to say I'm thrilled to hear another MBA acknowledge that a lot of the lingo they teach is CRAP!

Congratulations on the degree!
Colin

[BGCarrera32]

Root cause is like "irregardless". Look up irregardless in the dictionary and let me know if you find it...

[Joe Bob]

"root cause".....

Isn't "root" the main head booger programmer....?

root cause=the admin screwed up again....?

[dhoward]

I recently had a cold start problem, but the root cause in this case was inadequate metering orifices in my Weber-manufactured fuel atomization and delivery system....

[GSpreeman]

The management consulting firm I worked for (no, it wasn't Porsche...to keep this on topic), made a living off buzzwords. I remember when "Who moved my cheese" was published and we had executives clamoring to take seminars on the concepts covered in the book. What's worse, a lot of HR people just love new jargon and lingo. It makes them seem like they're doing a lot more on an intellectual level than they really are.

[azasadny]

In my area, the key word is "6Sigma". It seems you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a "6Sigma Blackbelt"!!!!

[BGCarrera32]

6 Sigma, Who moved my Cheese, and a little ISO9000 rolled in there and you've got my employer...LOL...

[jhelgesen]

Man, I hate that crap, nothing boggs down a design project than a boss with a mouth full of buzz words. My list of favorites:

Paradigm shift
low hanging fruit
6 sigma


If I could get rid of that and these guys making timelines for everything, we might be able to get something done.

[Superman]

I too am part of the MBA crowd and I can tell you that, as many Thinker Toys as they show you in class, far more will be encountered in the real world. Management just loves to popularize idiotic but clever-sounding sound bites. It makes them feel like they are doing their jobs. "irregardless" is a good one, but unfortunately my pet peeve buzzword is actually a word. "Problematic."

Aw well. If management were a little less clueless than they are, then they wouldn't need me. My employer and I make a nice living promoting concepts that everyone should already know. For example, we get the parties in a dispute to talk with each other. I know, I know. It's a strange concept, but (surprize surprize) it works.

[azasadny]

It sounds like we all need to drive our cars to get these frustrations out of our systems. I look at my driving time in the P-car as "therapeutic"! Maybe I can work out a pseudo-technical term for it and write a book!!

[cowtown]

Originally posted by azasadny
I look at my driving time in the P-car as "therapeutic"! Maybe I can work out a pseudo-technical term for it and write a book!!

The real question is, when you drive, do you feel your paradigm shift?

[Paco Anton]

Funny thing is how buzzwords change over time. Who remembers...?

BPR (Business Process Redesign)
TQM (Total Quality management)
Synergy
e-learning
Balanced Scorecard
...

I am also part of the Business Consulting industry (I sell smoke as my friends say) but it pays the bills and the P-Car...