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dgtlhybrd 03-31-2022 11:15 AM

While you're in there - a spiral out of control! 79 911sc Build/Progress
 
Its great motivation that pelican parts is having a sweepstakes at the time of this post, as i’ve been meaning to post a bunch of things I have been working on for the past few months on my downtime with work!

my ig handle for the car is @79_911sc - i havent posted for quite sometime due to a bunch of factors, but hoping to get back to it after my work is done.

The Car
1979 911sc Euro - 3.0L/915
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648750095.JPG


Ill do my best to update this when I can with new things; and bring everything up to speed.

I got the car a few years back after my M3 got totaled outside a restaurant out here in Los Angeles, I had just started my own business at the time and wanted to have something to tinker on and I always wanted one.

The car has been fantastic, but like most of us I never had the opportunity to really give the car the attention it deserves due to the work we were doing at the time. I was a fulltime designer, for the last decade or so working in the entertainment industry, and as of the last 2-3 years been full time game developer working on my own indie game release, set (hopefully) for later this year 2022.

Due to covid, i have not driven much at all due a cracked windshield and thought I would take the time to really fix up a lot of **** that bothered me; starting with the interior.

The Interior

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648750935.jpg
this photo was after removing the old radio, and checkin out how the new continental looked but you can really get an idea of the quality of things after sitting for a bit and the dash cover removed - lots of dust now.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648752182.jpg
me starting to take some of the trim out etc


The interior seemed okish at first glance, but someone at some point had just sprayed the interior with black paint; over the dash, doors, carpet, and headliner - you name it.The carpet was a good starting point, and pretty beat - I actually dont even wanna call it carpet, it was a felt it looks like someone just laid down vs gluing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648751515.jpg
I actually tried to cut the carpet into a uniform square here so it didnt look so wacky

I popped the windows out in order to polish the glass down the line, and get the dash out (that didnt feel right pushing the windows out, but it was fairly simple - a real uneasy feeling pushing windows out of a car)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648752335.jpg

I took apart the dash/lower dash pieces and trim in hope to remove the paint via some sort of thinner or stripper. Removing the paint partially worked, but really destroyed the materials under neath - but cool, it was a dark brown vs black (didnt know if the whole dash matched)… im getting somewhere.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648754065.jpg
Dash was pretty cracked and all jacked up from someone painting it - im assuming the velcro here was to keep the cover from rubbing and squeeking

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648752451.jpg
that gasket on the center air vent was totally fried and crispy

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648752451.jpg
cant believe someone did this

dgtlhybrd 03-31-2022 11:29 AM

While I was breaking down the interior I did my first purchase: Appbiz plush carpet, in a salt n pepper color. Talking to Appbiz was cool, very knowledgeable as everyone has mentioned before; would def recommend to anyone looking for carpet. I got mine on ebay actually to be clear vs their website

I began looking into seats, since mine were beginning to crack and some of the features were no longer working. I looked into covers, or reupholstery; but decided to take a chance on car-bone. I had been following car-bone on ig for quite some time now, and pulled the trigger on having them make some bespoke pieces. To start:dash/seats

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648754439.JPG
(my quick and dirty mockup for myself and them)

I had them make me some bucket seats in chocolate brown leather, brass rivets, and porsche crest. I wanted the interior to be something much closer to the original flair of the car, but with my own taste and hugged me a bit better.

For the dash, I did the same color with matching stitching.

There was a lot of back and forth between car-bone and myself, i felt like it took 2-3 months of waiting between emails to get it all sorted. It feels like their cadence was: you’d get a response to your email every other day (they’re in Poland) - so let this be a warning to those reaching out, dont expect a super fast response or updates - the seats themselves probably took another 3-4 months? I cant remember the exact time - but I am super happy with the results and cant wait to get this all in.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648754754.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648754754.jpg
lighting isnt fantastic here in these shots, but i loved how they turned out

Since getting the seats/dash
I have sent my door cap trim/lower dash pieces and a few other bits to get wrapped in leather to match along with a steering wheel I am hoping they can make soon too ( i am still waiting for all this )

dgtlhybrd 03-31-2022 11:55 AM

Ok well ****, what am i doing? ok well err uhh.. lets keep tearing this **** apart - with the dash and pieces out, it was real easy to get access to the glove box, gauges and all that so out ya’ go

Gauges
The gauges seemed fine, the odometer needed a new gear, and the glass/plastic were pretty scratched and had some paint sprinkles here and there.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648755988.JPG




took em apart, and got to cleaning - polished the glass and plastic to a nice pristine shine and got a new gear sorted for the odometer. That gear was so jacked up; it was wild how it was almost jelly like.. very delicate, it was almost hard to count the cogs (i had to make a lil graphic counting the cogs tell)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648756476.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648756476.jpg
my quick and dirty way of creating a way to count the cogs - since my brain wasnt having it - just touching the wheel left a residue on your fingers

dgtlhybrd 03-31-2022 12:01 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648756680.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648756680.jpg
the glass/plastic were pretty beat seen here

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648756680.jpg
using a drill, polishing pad, and a few variations of buffing compounds for car paint, i was able to get a pretty good luster and most of the scratches were now gone.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648756680.jpg
almost done at this point, but i kept polishing after this photo was taken

dgtlhybrd 03-31-2022 12:09 PM

I had done my best to label the wires and connection points on the back of the gauges, as to not disturb anything to the best of my ability - id love to just plug n play when this is all done.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648757102.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648757102.jpg
label maker came in clutch.

The bezels I had painted in black satin wurth trim paint, but I think I will cerakote these, since you gotta pry on em pretty good when accessing the insides (cerakote is fantastic)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648757102.jpg

Someone had snipped a few lines to the gauges, quite the bummer since i dont plan on getting a new wiring harness atm (kinda still want to..you know, since im in there) but hoping to not run into too many probs right now as it was working fine before, and didnt notice anything out of the ordinary (at least i think) - the lights will be replaced with vintage white leds and wires from car magic.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648757102.jpg
I was pretty stressed about getting into the gauges, but after a lot of youtube and browsing the web; it really felt more manageable - and they turned out decent

dgtlhybrd 03-31-2022 12:35 PM

Doors
For the doors, I always had issues with water drippin' inside from the doors - so I wanted to put an end to it and replace all the gaskets and seals.

Pulled the old stereo out with the speakers and got a newer continental head unit, and some JBL speakers to drop in when the time comes.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648758269.jpg
I once took a turn, and the speaker shot out at my leg - "PUH!" I dont think the car even want these anymore

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648758269.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648758269.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648758269.jpg
Managed to get a tape out of the cassette player as well that had been stuck in there forever. That was pretty exciting


The doors were pretty straight forward, but the window regulators were shot and stripped and missing several teeth on the crank; cant wait to get the new ones in holy ****. I always hated when people got in and you got that anxiety or had to open the window for someone “in just the right way”

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648758269.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648758269.jpg

the passenger side glass was glued to the window lifter rail - clever but that took a few days to get out. I had to keep soaking it in thinners and tryin to get at it with razor blades, wire (threading it around the window tryin to go at like floss) not much worked - but it finally came out after a few days of trial and error and gentle prying.

The window frames themselves were dirty, but also are a lil crusty I started to prep them for paint, but changed it up and I plan on sending these to shaun over at tru6 after my fan/shroud - err woops, that comes later.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648758269.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648758269.jpg

Carbone will be creating a new set of RS door panels as well to match everything else; however this will be black with chocolate stitching

dgtlhybrd 03-31-2022 01:22 PM

Glass

After removing all the windows - I polished all the glass out with 3M Glass polish, and a orbital buffer - this took forever, but the results were great. It doesnt get big pits out - i suppose it could but youd be there for an eternity.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg
Gotta keep it wet and just keep at it. I forget but I think I may have done 1 or 2 hours per window pending size, half on each side.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg
vent glass before and after

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg
quarter glass before/during/after

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648761365.jpg
rear glass before/after

Its really hard to tell from the photos - but they really shine and sparkle when its done, the glass is suppper smooth aside from deeper pits.

With all the glass out of the car and frames out - i plan on getting some ceramic tint, hoping to get a deal; considering its much easier to just have the glass on a table.

dgtlhybrd 04-01-2022 09:44 AM

Bolts
After going through the doors and other bits of the car, over time i noticed how mismatched things were - but more important to me: some of these bolts I dont know the quality and id prefer 8.8 when possible at least.

i set out to make it my goal, to start cataloging all the bolts that I am working with if they need to be replaced. This kinda resulted in me going wild with measuring most of the bolts I took out.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834886.jpg

I also hit the internet and researched the most common porsche sizes etc and did my best to put together a kit of bolts in yellow zinc. I am a absolute sucker for yellow bolts

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834886.jpg
A big chunk of the bolts I got

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834650.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834650.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834650.jpg

I sourced everything thus far for the most part from belmetric - and ill do my best at some point to share my doc that i've put together with all the bolts and links associated. I am unsure how correct they are since in some cases random lengths were being used in some of my projects. These are all 8.8 if not harder

The yellow is fairly inconsistent but thats fine, i kinda figured it would be as such

917_Langheck 04-01-2022 10:09 AM

Hardware drool...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/kwijl.gif

Please post up your list; I face similar issues and it bugs to have non-standard hardware installed.

Cheers

dgtlhybrd 04-01-2022 11:52 AM

I def will! I got a bit messy with it once belmetric updated their website as of recent and everything broke :(

dgtlhybrd 04-01-2022 12:15 PM

Wheels/Tires
I had a flat tire, and the tires were at beginning of the end so I needed to get some new rubber so i can drive/move it around when need be.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648843495.jpg

16" tires in our sizes are getting even hard than it was in years previously - it looks like theres just a handful of tires (performance based) that youd want to throw on - and none the less match for aesthetics. Its a bummer that Pirelli removed the Trofeo R sizes as those were fantastic tires and matched up with the cars handling characteristics pretty damn well.

After a long look around - i was thankful i could find R-888 / R-888R's in the correct sizes, and since they're the same family they look alike to a degree (thank god!) Im curious on how the R-888r's will be, i dont expect to be able to pin point any real differences since I am running two diff tires - but I recall the R-888's being slightly loud with road noise.

I am more than likely going to need to look into 17" wheels in the next 2-3 years so I wont bother with going wild on refinishing these fuchs as of yet. I will just clean the centers up since they're a bit dull - i wish i could get the wheels on something that spins so i could brush the lip back to a nice finish.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648843495.jpg
Scuffed these up the best i could - didnt want to go wild

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648843495.jpg
there they is - Hanks Tire in woodland hills is always my spot to go for tire needs for sure, great people there.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648843495.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648843495.jpg
I meant to do this first, but totally forgot about painting first before going to the new tires, but here we are. Masked them with frog tape - i can see why people just say **** it and paint em all black

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648843495.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648843495.jpg
Dupli-Color Automotive Filler Primer

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648843495.jpg
Dupli-Color Black High Performance Wheel Paint

uhh.. i guess i didnt take a photo once i removed the paper wtf is wrong with me

pkabush 04-01-2022 07:05 PM

Love the direction of your build so far.. except the white faced gauges:p

“I wish i could get the wheels on something that spins so i could brush the lip back to a nice finish.“

Get the rear end up on jack stands. Chalk the fronts. Start the car. Select the appropriate gear for the desired speed and polish away.

Chrisyoung808 04-01-2022 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkabush (Post 11653578)
Love the direction of your build so far.. except the white faced gauges:p

“I wish i could get the wheels on something that spins so i could brush the lip back to a nice finish.“

Get the rear end up on jack stands. Chalk the fronts. Start the car. Select the appropriate gear for the desired speed and polish away.

Make sure to mind your fingers near the valve stem.

dgtlhybrd 04-01-2022 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkabush (Post 11653578)
Love the direction of your build so far.. except the white faced gauges:p

“I wish i could get the wheels on something that spins so i could brush the lip back to a nice finish.“

Get the rear end up on jack stands. Chalk the fronts. Start the car. Select the appropriate gear for the desired speed and polish away.

hahaha i hear ya about the white dials - actually tried to see if i could peel em off, since they look like they're glued over the older ones - its on there with some sort of epoxy :( - ill def get on this at some point

great idea, i didnt even think about it; since doing the wheels I got a quickjack, and this would work great for this thanks for this!

dgtlhybrd 04-01-2022 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisyoung808 (Post 11653642)
Make sure to mind your fingers near the valve stem.

:eek:

GothingNC 04-02-2022 02:24 AM

Great write up about your project !
Thanks for sharing !

dgtlhybrd 04-02-2022 10:29 AM

Shifter
I've taken this apart before to replace some of the bushings, but this time I will take'r apart to change the look completely and replace/fix anything else that might be worn.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648922744.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648922744.jpg
what looks like dirt is actually.. dirt it seems, but its also a bunch of black overspray and red from the color respray of the car i am guessing. This has always driven me nuts, and never had the opp to do it

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648922892.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648922744.jpg
scrubbed with brillo and acetone worked pretty well to get this clean for the most part... i was gonna just leave it raw like this, but i really dont like the metal on the tops tone - i wish it were a different shade to go along with more stuff in the car.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648922744.jpg
got the shifter parts blasted, along with some pedalbox stuff that ill write up about soon

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648922744.jpg
This will be my first time cerakoting - lots of prep goes into it, so i am hopin for the best!


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648922744.jpg
this came out great! I love the yellow and black here

A future project will be a sandblasting booth/vapor blasting - ive been using the handheld cheapie and its an awful experience, with the handheld thing you gotta refill it quite frequently - and your back gets rocked pretty hard. Would just recommend taking these out to someone or using a booth with explaining to them what you're doing so they dont touch them with their fingers and whatnot

dgtlhybrd 04-02-2022 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GothingNC (Post 11653678)
Great write up about your project !
Thanks for sharing !

thank you!

dgtlhybrd 04-02-2022 10:38 AM

better shots - a pinch dusty
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648924681.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648924681.jpg

Steve F 04-03-2022 04:34 AM

Yup, that works! Nice!!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gif

dgtlhybrd 04-07-2022 03:38 PM

Pedal Box

I wanted to redo this since it looked like crap, and I was chasing some strange pedal feel here and there so this felt like a good place to start.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649374155.jpg
I had replace one or two bushings previously(you can see the brighter bronze) but that was shadowed by the other stuff

Like most - it was pretty rusty and full of dirt n crud, and bushings shot

I got a new bushing kit from pelican and a new clutch pedal shaft to press in a fresh bronze bushing as well there too - it did have a little bit of warp; but not so bad as I was expecting. Hard to tell, but the amount of padding on the left of the hole is much less than the right.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649374155.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649374155.jpg

The worst of the bunch.. and the hands down worst was the roll pin in the clutch pedal - omg dont waste your time on this, and go to a machine shop (unless you have a drill press) - I went thru several bits trying to drill this out, tried tapping it out; the works.
With the time i have to do stuff, this took a lil over a month of tinkerin before i gave up and brought it in, and even then the dude went thru 3 bits on the drill press.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649374155.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649374155.jpg
my attempts were worthless - just marring the metal if anything

I plan on trying a different method to lock this in place - because.. never again. I will try out a snug clevis pin.

I sandblasted this down, baked, degreased and got to cerakoting and rebuilding the unit once I got it all back from the machine shop.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649374155.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649374155.jpg


it came out great and pretty happy with the results - i am super tempted to have the springs redone in yellow :) but ill relax on that.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649374155.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649374155.jpg

getting the hang of cerakote - learning what i can do better each time etc.

AlKidd 04-07-2022 05:23 PM

Looks good. I didnt have much issue driving the pin out. Something ive noticed is that roll pins also seem to have a taper. It might be just me or it develops after being in the hole for a long time. Regardless of the cause, if you try to bang the fat end through, it wont work.

Hulley 04-08-2022 02:41 AM

Following along, love to see a good transformation, the shifter housing looks great, I wish I had done that when I recently rebuilt my shifter assembly.

dgtlhybrd 04-08-2022 06:05 PM

thanks everyone!

from what ive read here: when i was going thru my pedal box - it looks like some people had a easy trip with it! youre very lucky @AlKidd!

sportsbeetle 04-08-2022 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgtlhybrd (Post 11653174)
Bolts
After going through the doors and other bits of the car, over time i noticed how mismatched things were - but more important to me: some of these bolts I dont know the quality and id prefer 8.8 when possible at least.

i set out to make it my goal, to start cataloging all the bolts that I am working with if they need to be replaced. This kinda resulted in me going wild with measuring most of the bolts I took out.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834886.jpg

I also hit the internet and researched the most common porsche sizes etc and did my best to put together a kit of bolts in yellow zinc. I am a absolute sucker for yellow bolts

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834886.jpg
A big chunk of the bolts I got

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834650.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834650.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1648834650.jpg

I sourced everything thus far for the most part from belmetric - and ill do my best at some point to share my doc that i've put together with all the bolts and links associated. I am unsure how correct they are since in some cases random lengths were being used in some of my projects. These are all 8.8 if not harder

The yellow is fairly inconsistent but thats fine, i kinda figured it would be as such

Wow, just wow! Look forward to the shared doc. I've been slowly putting fresh hardware in as projects arise but this is next level 👍

dgtlhybrd 04-09-2022 12:23 PM

Insulation Scrapin'
This was a TON of work; lots of labor involved with this. This project is totally doable at home, but its going to take a lot of effort on your part if you plan on doing it yourself (pending the shape of everything im sure) The following is a few months of work

if you do decide to do this - do yourself a favor and invest in a oscillating multi-tool. This saved me lots of scraping time! what a fantastic tool this was for this job

The car itself had what looked like some cheapo foam insulation along with the factory tar/butyl

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649535391.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649535391.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649535391.jpg
pretty gross - i did find 50 cents tho

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649535391.jpg
This foam was a nigthmare

I used citrus strip remover to get a lot of the fuzz and glue off - i found that when using the citrus strip: you really need to go on heavy, light coats just dry up and becomes real hard to remove.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649535391.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649535391.jpg

I tried the dry ice method to remove all the previous butyl/tar; this worked pretty good - the ice was expensive, i forget exactly the cost, but i should/woulda got more.. but didnt due to the price. I thought I had enough, but I should have gotten wayyy more to just fill it up real good.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649535391.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649535391.jpg
there was a lot of satisfying ASMR cracks n pops during this process; ill have to upload a video

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649535391.jpg
The aftermath was pretty messy; lots of glue/tar and whatnot left over. I tried a variety of different products to help remove a lot of this stuff - mineral spirit (wasnt easy to get this since its not allowed in CA anymore) and WD-40 worked pretty well

More to this post coming

dgtlhybrd 04-09-2022 12:24 PM

thanks @sportsbeetle - Its been real tricky in general finding all the bolts; i am hoping that when i am done with it, it helps a lot of folks out!

sportsbeetle 04-09-2022 02:58 PM

I found dry ice + a pneumatic hammer with chisel head was the best way to tackle the insulation. Also did it in small focussed sections over a number of days switching between other projects. It's a PITA either way.

dave123456789 04-09-2022 03:42 PM

To make your dry ice go further place it in a bags and then put them over the spots you next want to chip off. that way you can use it for longer and its far easier to manage. ive done a whole car with about a $20 worth of dry ice

dgtlhybrd 04-09-2022 06:06 PM

Insulation Scrapin' PT 2
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg
for the most part everything came off - I was mainly left with lil left over pieces, and lots of glue

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg
using WD-40 and mineral spirits to clean and melt down the glues

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg
osculating tool is top tier

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg
When eveything was cleaned up for the most part - it gave me a good opportunity to asses any rust, and see what needed to be done outside of the obvious... like wtf is this hole all about.. theres one on the other side but its a clean hole... not sure how this one ended up so wild
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg

the driver side rear seat was pretty damn rusty and was feeling real thin to the touch with the ole' knock n touch test - lots of rust vacuumed up when i got cleaning as well. I unfortunately discovered a hole through the seat and could see the ground.Was really hoping i was gonna be able to just seal this all up with POR-15

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg
the hole is the black spot in the bottom center, kinda damp'ish in tone to the rest of the metal.

a few weeks went by due to weather, and I was able to get a new seat pan in for restoration design - quality was fantastic + theres lots of scrap from cutting this down
for other things down the line.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg
easy does it...

The auto-heat cable popped out of its restraint, and i cut it clean in half - which was kind of a ok thing since i plan on removing the auto-heat unit and keeping the backdate style. The autoheat unit i had was so temperamental and it would just kick on randomly.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649555607.jpg
was super surprised how well these fit - great job restoration design

more parts of this story coming soon

dgtlhybrd 04-09-2022 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave123456789 (Post 11660540)
To make your dry ice go further place it in a bags and then put them over the spots you next want to chip off. that way you can use it for longer and its far easier to manage. ive done a whole car with about a $20 worth of dry ice

this is a great idea, this would have saved me lots of shoveling time

dgtlhybrd 04-11-2022 02:31 PM

Insulation Scrapin' PT 3

With the new pan in hand, my buddy came over and helped me get this welded nicely in
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649715668.jpg

We also were able to utilize some left over metal from the seat pan to close these holes up
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649715668.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649715668.jpg

After cleaning up a bit, i wanted to get this stuff sealed up - i noticed while cleaning up the glue and such from the padding that it looks like porsche was using beige sealer on my car - so i wanted to keep that goin.. despite not seeing it ever.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649715668.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649715668.jpg

I used Eastwood Internal Frame Coating on the bottom side of the seat, since I couldnt reach in too well with the sealer - this worked out nicely since it applies with this lil hose attachment. This Coating came in handy for a few other things as well.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649715668.jpg

while cleaning up some rust and lookin around, i caught some more rust - this looks pretty brutal but looks isolated; i will have to deal with this after i wrap up the interior project here - very similar on the other side of the car
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649715668.jpg

After sealing everything up - it was time to start sanding lil spots I might have missed, but also just cleaning up in prep for POR15. Things are feelin/lookin good aside from that new rust

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649715668.jpg

dgtlhybrd 04-12-2022 10:02 AM

Insulation Prep

Now that everything is sealed up, I was able to treat the metal using the POR15 suite of products - degreaser/metal prep/por15

Since por15 requires 2 coats - i grabbed grey and black to make it easy to spot where i missed; starting with grey.

I dont know if I would recommend POR15 in the end, id maybe use another product: I think theres just too many steps to make sure the product is applied correctly compared to a lot of newer products out there. I went with POR15 since ive heard a lot of good lore about it in the past.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649785650.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649785650.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649785650.jpg
degreaser cleaned it up nicely

They want you to pretty much spray their products out with water, but i didnt want to put the hose inside the car at this stage; so i used my pump spray bottle to clean this out - this is where i went wrong im sure, as i couldnt probably clean everything to the best of my ability here. Quite the shame since I put so much effort into prepping for this moment.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649785650.jpg
all clean - and time for metal prep

Once everything was good to go - i threw on a coat of grey; it was at this point i started seeing where little bits of oil or degreaser may have still remained from the cleanings (probably a lot of that wd40 and such i used to remove the butyl/tar) A pressure washer probably would have been great here

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649786042.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649786042.jpg

It said the second coat needs to be applied while tacky - I had to wait overnight to get to just a tacky phase, took longer than I expected!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649786042.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649786042.jpg

things came out not bad considering! nice seeing one color vs the mix match of random colors

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649786042.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649786042.jpg

I woulda/shoulda have done a mobile sandblasting service to clear out the interior to be a guaranteed clean. Would have been a opp to try out @rennch's blasting service. Would have saved weeks of time cleaning and prepping and yielded a more even surface i am sure.

In the end like I mentioned, I would probably not use POR15 again for this type of project due to the prep being so finnicky; there is quite a number of newer products that I would probably give a shot now that I have done this.

dgtlhybrd 04-14-2022 10:34 AM

Foil Town USA

With everything all coated up and ready to roll, I want to get my insulation in.
I went with membrane since its a dual purpose insulation for sound and heat - and around 6mm (they now make a 8mm btw)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg

insulation isnt too cheap, so i wanted to make sure i got proper fitment along with using as much as i could without ordering too much. It looked like 2 boxes would be enough since thats what they suggest.

I got to work with foil (made the mistake of not ordering heavy duty - so i had to redo this a few times before giving up and just buying heavy duty)

Since the foil contorts you can get a better idea of the actual form in the end vs eyeballin or just cutting as you go. This is actually pretty similar to making video game stuff/3d modeling work.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg
if i did this again, i would be much more vigilant about tac'n down foil here and there to make sure it doesnt move, in the end i found a bit of inaccuracy, prob from foil slightly shifting

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg
the fronts were actually trickier than i expected due to just having to mangle my body a lil weird to get it right. - got the new door pieces in (really nice door feel now)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg

this took a few tries to get right - i wanted to be sure to measure three times, cut once.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg
layout all set, looks like i will use exactly 2 boxes, with 1 sheet left over for the roof portion of the project. ( i am holding on to scraps till the end)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg
rear section complete. I got some heavy duty fiskar scissors for this, and they cut these up real nice - along with fresh razors for random detail bits.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg
floors squared up (i actually ended up remaking the side pieces to these after this photo. they didnt feel clean enough)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg
remaking these side pieces

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1649960406.jpg
floors dropped in just for giggles - and they fit nicely. phew

dgtlhybrd 04-16-2022 01:35 PM

Insulation Time

With most if not all pieces cut, i went to work gettin these put down and locked in
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650144189.jpg
test fit

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650144189.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650144189.jpg
everything was plopping in pretty well, way easier than making the templates
there was a few lil gaps here and there from where the foil might have moved or i cut a lil too liberally with the scissors; im wondering now if using blue painters tape would have been better for layering and making templates.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650144189.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650144189.jpg

the membrane product was real nice and easy to work with, however their matching tape doesnt stick as well as you'd hope and i would expect i have maybe used 4 rolls vs their advertised "you prob just need 2 per car"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650144189.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650144189.jpg
still more taping to do but its pretty cozy in here now.

My question to top this off, is if i apply some of the membrane to the roof behind the sunroof, will the 6mm of insulation here show through the headliner? ie. will we see a square outline thru the fabric?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650144189.jpg

red is where i was originally planning to place more membrane, or do i do it in the blue square area?

dgtlhybrd 04-16-2022 02:30 PM

looking back on it, prob would have saved a ton of cash using wendy's chicken sandwich wrappers
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650148232.jpg

jrwilson 04-17-2022 07:17 AM

Who makes that insulation?

dgtlhybrd 04-17-2022 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrwilson (Post 11668075)
Who makes that insulation?

The company is called "Restomod Air"

dgtlhybrd 05-03-2022 05:16 PM

I am looking into headliners atm - I am trying to find something close to what the car originally had - it looks like the OG headliner in my car had a larger "grain" that was more uniform across the board - where as I am seeing a lot of "dot" textures. I just got my samples from GAHH; they're feeling great in my hand, they seem real durable.. but the texture seems off.

OG Headliner
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1651626934.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1651626738.jpg
GAHH samples

Anyone already go down this path and find something that looks/feels good?
I am tempted to make a new post about this in particular since it looks like it could be useful for those looking for stuff that matches.

dgtlhybrd 05-03-2022 05:22 PM

not to mention this small detail
OG on left
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1651627305.jpg


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