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Steam Driver 04-18-2022 07:13 AM

911SC v 964 Engine Compartment Differences
 
Without going into a lot of irrelevant detail, I have been working on an EFI conversion for my SC, using elements of the Bitz kit integrated with a 964 intake plenum (plastic version). It was my intent to use the 964 air filter as well.

So the engine with intake parts except the air filter housing is in the car, no issues there. However when it came to installing the air filter housing there is a big problem. It's a no-go. The part of the housing that goes on the engine (I made an adapter piece to replace the 964 air flow meter) no problem. However there is no way the filter element and outer housing will work.

There is a major interference between the outer cover and the oil filter for sure, and also possibly the decklid hinge if the cover could be put in place.

Was there some change in the 964 engine compartment from the G body cars? This question is mainly for information because there's no way this can be made to fit. Are there significant size differences between the 964 and 3.2 AF housings that make that viable? It looks like a K&N arrangement is in my future.

yelcab1 04-18-2022 07:16 AM

I worked on a 1982SC fitted with a 1992 964 engine. The filter housing went in just fine. I don't see the problem.

Steam Driver 04-18-2022 08:27 AM

That is interesting. There is definitely a problem with this one. AF cover absolutely will not go past the oil filter. No clearance.

Bill Verburg 04-18-2022 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steam Driver (Post 11668780)
Without going into a lot of irrelevant detail, I have been working on an EFI conversion for my SC, using elements of the Bitz kit integrated with a 964 intake plenum (plastic version). It was my intent to use the 964 air filter as well.

So the engine with intake parts except the air filter housing is in the car, no issues there. However when it came to installing the air filter housing there is a big problem. It's a no-go. The part of the housing that goes on the engine (I made an adapter piece to replace the 964 air flow meter) no problem. However there is no way the filter element and outer housing will work.

There is a major interference between the outer cover and the oil filter for sure, and also possibly the decklid hinge if the cover could be put in place.

Was there some change in the 964 engine compartment from the G body cars? This question is mainly for information because there's no way this can be made to fit. Are there significant size differences between the 964 and 3.2 AF housings that make that viable? It looks like a K&N arrangement is in my future.

a complete 964 does fit

here's mine back in 1994 in my 1976 C3

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650302817.jpg

and the 3.8 993 I installed in 2000, no blower and the air box face was also opened up so the frame is the main part still there

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650303201.jpg

yelcab1 04-19-2022 07:02 AM

IF the oil filter is a problem, maybe remove it? It's a little bit messy but ... you can clean the mess.

Sboxin 04-19-2022 09:30 AM

This is our 3.6/3.8L 1992 964 air box modification - - but we also have an oil breather catch can in that area - - you should not be having a problem fitting the 964 into you SC . . .
Regards,
Roy T

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650385272.jpg

Steam Driver 04-24-2022 01:06 PM

The solution to my issue was to remove the "snout" from the air cleaner. After that no problem The problem wasn't that the inner housing would fit, it was that the outer housing and filter wouldn't go in past the oil filter. And that was because of the snout.


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