P202 Cam Holding Socket/Tool

KTL · 10-20-2011, 09:41 AM

This is the cam snout tool used to counterhold the cam while you loosen the pesky 46mm nut with a monster crowfoot socket. Anybody have one that I can borrow and send right back? Cams are coming out and will be updated with ones that will have the later bolt and washer fastening.

Local guys don't have one and online sources are not in stock.

Thanks,
Kevin

jpnovak · 10-20-2011, 10:10 AM

Just find a 46mm Impact socket at your local Advance Auto or other FLAP. You can zip the nut off very easily without holding the cam in place with the other tool.

If that will not work, PM me your address and I will put my set of tools in the mail.

Jamie

KTL · 10-20-2011, 11:22 AM

I have the crowfoot. Just didn't want to zip it with the impact w/out something to hold it. I guess I could counterhold a lobe with some rubber hose-lined channel locks?

I just don't like the tight fit of the crowfoot in there. Zip it too fast and that sucker goes spinning against the chain box wall (there's not 360 deg. clearance for the crowfoot around the inside of the box).

Bob Kontak · Bob Kontak's Garage

I'll send mine to you as well. You have exceeded the minimum posts of 8000 for being trusted with tools. :-)

boyt911sc · boyt911sc's Garage

Kevin,

PM me your address and I'll have it shipped via FedEx. You might not remember me but I sent you numerous PM in the past and received very detail description of things I like to know. This is the least I could do for the valuable feedbacks.

Tony

KTL · 10-20-2011, 01:23 PM

Thanks for the loaner offers from everybody. I'll take Bob's offer since he's closest?

Always glad to help and I appreciate the return favor!

boyt911sc · boyt911sc's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTL

Thanks for the loaner offers from everybody. I'll take Bob's offer since he's closest?

Always glad to help and I appreciate the return favor!

Kevin,

You could still change your mind. My cam tool is newer, cleaner, and does self-cam timing set-up. All you have to do is hold it tight and close your eyes, everything would be OK. I don't like that guy from Ohio. A few weeks ago, I was looking for the green wire to the distributor and that guy Bob sent it to me for free. He even paid for the mailing. Someday, I'll get even with this fellow. Take another look.

Tony

Bob Kontak · Bob Kontak's Garage

Pfffft. Don't be fooled by imitations. What Tony is holding there is the notorious "Philadelphia Shallow-Well P-202" Made of plastic with only a 1/4" drive. (Don't try photo-shopping your way out of this one)

You need the Hungarian hand-forged deep-well P-202. Only to be used after surface oxidation occurs for unsurpassed cam-gripping power.

KTL · 10-21-2011, 07:31 AM

Yeah I don't know about you guys..........

One is all rusty and could seize up on me? The other is never used and may break on account of it not yet being broken in with Brad Penn 30wt oil @ 2000 rpm for 20 minutes?

What kinda crap you guys trying to pull? The helpfulness of the forum never ceases to impress me. Thanks fellas!

cgarr · cgarr's Garage

Whey don't we just make one? or "I" make one?

KTL · 10-21-2011, 07:58 AM

Wouldn't need to make one at all if the local yahoos could find theirs.......

I only need this once. My new cams will be the later bolt & washer style. I have better things for you to make!

Bob Kontak · Bob Kontak's Garage

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Originally Posted by cgarr

Whey don't we just make one? or "I" make one?

It really wold not be hard if you had a block o' steel and a drill press - and some time.

Bridgeport would make it a cinch.

jpnovak · 10-21-2011, 10:49 AM

I still think the socket and locking the flywheel is the easiest.

OK I will ask since no one else has...

What cams are going in the race car?

bullethole · 10-21-2011, 11:54 AM

I had this problem when working on my spare motor.. Talked to the mechanic i used in TX and he said just lock the flywheel and use an impact gun.. of course I needed the tool for when i replaced everything. If you are going to the newer style cams, then you can do this once and forget about the problem

Flat6pac · 10-21-2011, 04:48 PM

Whats the matter with a 17mm open end? I have one in the tool box and dont have to wait or borrow tools.
Bruce

Bob Kontak · Bob Kontak's Garage

The exciting Peter Morgan addresses the 17mm wrench - (in his text commentary)

Porsche 911 camshaft nut removal - YouTube

KTL · 10-22-2011, 09:53 AM

Hadn't thought about using a standard open end wrench....... Sometimes my mind gets focused in one direction and won't look elsewhere for solutions.

That said, I did try a crescent wrench inside there and couldn't get good fitment. So I guess I was thinking wrenches on the shaft end weren't going to work since they want to interfere with the crowfoot placement? I'd be interested to see where people place the 17 wrench. I have to think it's a stubby or cut-off wrench and it is supported against the chain box? There's a lot of force on the cam nut and i'd be afraid to crack the chain box. I'm quite good and doing things like that.....

Hadn't thought of locking the flywheel again. I already have it off so i'd have to go to all that trouble of putting it back on!

Thanks to everyone for the tips!

Not sure what cams i'm going to use yet. Depends on what pistons i've got in there or am going to put in there. My wallet is getting scared of making things newer and better....

_baudett · _baudett's Garage

Hello, I just came to thank you for the comments. I was able to do this by locking the flywheel with a ratchet. Later, I was able to remove it with a 46 "wrench". Much easier than I expected! And I had to use "little force"