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jbell959 10-17-2022 08:01 PM

Custom Triple and Quad Gauges
 
Well, it's almost time to build another batch of triple and quad gauges. I started building the last batch in May/Jun and I built about 15 gauges. I'm probably not going to take that many orders for this next round so if you're interested in one, let me know early. I will start this building this batch in January but I need to get all the orders in before Thanksgiving. The next batch will probably be around May/Jun.

If you're interested in a quad or triple gauge please fill out the form and I'll get back to you with an estimate and any questions.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeKfN5oK1IoIvy0WaOXr-1M5Lc2QwozaCwlsiEG32Vy50CN7A/viewform?usp=sf_link

jbell959 10-17-2022 08:03 PM

Here are a few of the gauges from the last batch

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1666067226.jpg

porschedude996 10-18-2022 07:47 PM

You never cease to amaze me with your talents.

I was looking at the picture with the AFR Gage and wonder if the controller is inside the gage and a Lamda plugs into gage?

I’m enjoying my gage set you did for me.

Jeff Alton 10-18-2022 08:52 PM

Very Nice,

For some reason we did not realize you produced these. Will make them available to all our clients.

Cheers

75 911s 10-19-2022 07:04 AM

John,

I'm in for a quad gauge for my 914 6 conversion. I'll reach out.

1979-930 10-19-2022 07:14 AM

Is that fuel pressure in the first one with the AFR?
Do we need to supply a donor gauge?
Adding fuel pressure and AFR would allow me to ditch the digital gauge and put the clock back.

porschedude996 10-19-2022 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 11825387)
Is that fuel pressure in the first one with the AFR?
Do we need to supply a donor gauge?
Adding fuel pressure and AFR would allow me to ditch the digital gauge and put the clock back.

I think that is Oil or Oel Pressure in Atmospheres or Bar. Each whole increment is 14.7psig. They do look great, don’t they?

jbell959 10-19-2022 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porschedude996 (Post 11825106)
You never cease to amaze me with your talents.

I was looking at the picture with the AFR Gage and wonder if the controller is inside the gage and a Lamda plugs into gage?

I’m enjoying my gage set you did for me.

Hey Keith, No, the wideband controller is not built into the gauge. These gauges accept a 0-5V analog signal from the wideband controller. Most of the controllers (Innovate, AEM, PLX, 14Point7, etc) provide this type of signal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 11825124)
Very Nice,

For some reason we did not realize you produced these. Will make them available to all our clients.

Cheers

Thanks Jeff... I build these in batches just a few times a year, but let me know because I often have enough parts lying around that I can put one together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75 911s (Post 11825366)
John,

I'm in for a quad gauge for my 914 6 conversion. I'll reach out.

Hey Duane... Do me a favor and fill out the google form if you're interested in one. It gets crazy trying to keep track of things and the forms make it a little easier. Cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 11825387)
Is that fuel pressure in the first one with the AFR?
Do we need to supply a donor gauge?
Adding fuel pressure and AFR would allow me to ditch the digital gauge and put the clock back.

Yeah, that's oil pressure on that gauge but I can't see any reason we couldn't build one for fuel pressure. I control the AFR gauges using a little microcontroller in the gauge so if we can't find a VDO fuel pressure gauge that will work I can take the signal from just about any sender and adapt it to the gauge movement (If that makes any sense)

jbell959 10-19-2022 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 11825387)
Is that fuel pressure in the first one with the AFR?
Do we need to supply a donor gauge?
Adding fuel pressure and AFR would allow me to ditch the digital gauge and put the clock back.

As soon as I hit submit on that last message I remembered that I built this small combo gauge with fuel pressure for another Pelican's early race car. I forgot what fuel pressure sender we used (I can go back to my notes) but I already have the circuit to control it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1666218659.jpg

jakg104 10-20-2022 10:12 AM

John recently redid my gauges and they are absolutely flawless. Cannot say enough great things about your work, John!!

Thanks for being an awesome community supporter with your amazing talents!

Gretz 10-25-2022 09:54 AM

Another happy customer here. Mine look great. Thanks, John!

FA-18C 10-25-2022 02:03 PM

John, I sent a form, and am hoping to add volt meter and arm to fuel and oil level gauge. Would I send you the gauge?

jbell959 10-25-2022 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA-18C (Post 11830660)
John, I sent a form, and am hoping to add volt meter and arm to fuel and oil level gauge. Would I send you the gauge?

I need to go through the form submissions and get back to everyone. I'm hoping to do that tomorrow. Unfortunately, it's not possible to squeeze 4 gauges into the small fuel/oil level gauges. I can add one to make a small triple gauge but that's it. Even fitting 3 was a challenge.

All the triple and quad gauges in the picture are made to replace the oil temp/pressure gauge.

FA-18C 10-25-2022 02:37 PM

That makes sense, is it reasonable to add AFR to fuel and oil level small gauge? That is my end game, would maybe add voltage to clock later 😁

I am envious of your ability to do this!

jbell959 11-01-2022 07:26 PM

Sorry I haven't replied to everyone that submitted a form. I will do that this week.

jbell959 11-12-2022 05:15 AM

Still a few spots open for this next batch.

bv911 11-12-2022 11:48 AM

Your talents might be overkill for what I’m looking for, but nothing ventured, nothing gained, so here goes: would you make a clock replacement gauge with a volt meter and ammeter in it?

(Since not a triple or quad, figured I’d ask before filling out your form.)

And yeah, nice work…!

shahram 11-15-2022 02:40 AM

Subscribed

jbell959 11-23-2022 05:47 AM

Last bump before I finalize the list for this next batch.

FA-18C 11-23-2022 06:44 AM

John, let me know when you are ready to go to work, I only need to pull my clock out, have a plug inboound to cover it. I can get this boxed up next week and headed your way.

What is the typical turn around?

ALSO - do you have a recommended WBO2 set up that will work with the analog gauge? Sal has offered some insight as well, but that is on my post-Christmas shopping list.

Happy Thanksgiving!

jbell959 11-24-2022 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA-18C (Post 11855228)
John, let me know when you are ready to go to work, I only need to pull my clock out, have a plug inboound to cover it. I can get this boxed up next week and headed your way.

What is the typical turn around?

ALSO - do you have a recommended WBO2 set up that will work with the analog gauge? Sal has offered some insight as well, but that is on my post-Christmas shopping list.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Hey Chris... Happy Thanksgiving!

My son is doing some of the machine work this week while he's home for Thanksgiving so I may be able to build your gauge in the next few weeks. I'll send you an email to work out the details. They take a couple of weeks start to finish.

The AFR gauge will work with almost any of the wideband controllers as long as they have a 0-5V analog output. The most popular ones are AEM, Innovate, and PLX but there are others. I'll just need to know which one you select so I can install the correct firmware on your gauge.

FA-18C 11-24-2022 08:36 AM

Thanks John, for the quality of work and willingness to herd people like me in the right direction.

Happy Thanksgiving. Will choose a path over the next couple of days and email you. Will pull my clock on Sunday and box everything up to ship in the next week.

BTW - I really miss my 70E. Less things to address.

SkunkWorks 11-24-2022 09:37 AM

John, would you be able to make an AFR gauge to replace the clock? I'm running an AEM wideband currently.

Sorry - initially tried the form but was only for triple/quad gauges!

jbell959 11-24-2022 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkunkWorks (Post 11856385)
John, would you be able to make an AFR gauge to replace the clock? I'm running an AEM wideband currently.

Sorry - initially tried the form but was only for triple/quad gauges!

I've built a bunch of small combo gauges like these to replace the clock. This one is dual AFR but I can also do AFR and VOLT or some other gauge.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669350664.jpg

I can also do them in a triple gauge to replace the clock.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669350618.jpg

Lastly, I've been working on a 270-degree AFR gauge for a while and keep changing my design. A couple of Pelicans have the last version of these in there cars and so far they seem to be working well. I have a new revision that I've been testing and hope to finalize the design soon. The only issue is that I have not been able to find a way to make an early (pre-74) style needle for these. I can make the later style by shortening a speedo needle like the one in the picture. I'm hoping to make a few of these for sale after the holidays.

This is an old picture, but gives you an idea how it looks The new version is either 8-18 or 10-20.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669352285.jpg

blucille 11-25-2022 03:43 AM

John, I can help you with some core gauges.

I like that clock replacement for the AFR gauge. I might change up my order.

jbell959 12-09-2022 04:05 PM

I have a couple more spots available in this next batch. I'll be building them after Christmas, but need to confirm any orders next week.

Sailkane 12-09-2022 04:55 PM

John I am interested in the clock replacement 270 degree . How much?

Sailkane 12-09-2022 06:26 PM

If that is to far in the future for a reliable 270 AFR I would like to at least order the dual volt AFR to replace my clock.
Thanks John

jbell959 12-12-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailkane (Post 11869286)
If that is to far in the future for a reliable 270 AFR I would like to at least order the dual volt AFR to replace my clock.
Thanks John

I got your PM. Sorry for the delayed response. I'm not ready to take orders for the full AFR gauge yet. I just finished a new design and want to make sure I have time to test it well before selling any. I also don't yet have a solution for the pre-74 style needles so when I do make these available, hopefully in a few months, I will only be able to make them with the later 74-on style needles.

Sailkane 12-12-2022 11:28 AM

My car is a 1979 911SC.
Will use AEM controller..
Put me on the list for a full gauge.
Thanks


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