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jwakil 01-08-2023 07:44 PM

Cv boot question
 
I need to replace my torn cv boots. Why can’t I just buy the rubber part and reuse the same flange, bolts and locking straps (or use zip ties)? It seems our host and most other vendors only sell kits with the flanges and the rubbers already mounted, like in the picture. Is it very hard to mount the rubber on the flange ? I don’t see the need for replacing the bolts circlips and washers and gaskets.

trippmann 01-08-2023 08:06 PM

like these? https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/92333203700.htm?pn=923-332-037-00-OEM&SVSVSI=0580

trippmann 01-08-2023 08:10 PM

you can always buy the tool to stretch the boots if you can find them.

https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-614-030-HELP-Universal-Boot/dp/B000CIV4KA/ref=asc_df_B000CIV4KA/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312174136943&hvpos=&hvnetw= g&hvrand=3913736091057367564&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt =&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003664&hvt argid=pla-570966138633&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=63790029762&h vpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312174136943&hvpos=&hvnetw=g &hvrand=3913736091057367564&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmd l=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003664&hvtargid=pla-570966138633

jwakil 01-08-2023 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trippmann (Post 11891881)

Yes. I can find just the rubber parts for $25 set of four, but with the flange, bolts, gaskets comes to $300+.

jwakil 01-08-2023 09:18 PM

Ok, so I guess it’s not easy to stretch and mount the boot on flange by hand? If I have to spend $170 on a tool then would defeat the purpose of just getting the rubber.

trippmann 01-09-2023 11:14 AM

You've discovered the ever persistent problem in your question! Pay extra to have all new stuff that has been put together properly, or spend slightly less and use up hours of your time.

Up to you...

wrxnofx 01-09-2023 01:48 PM

I used a set of bicycle tire irons to get my boots onto the flanges.

wrxnofx 01-09-2023 01:53 PM

Get 4 of these: https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/00004330644.htm?pn=000-043-306-44-M60&SVSVSI=590&DID=19433

Spend $50 total.

You don't need that tool above - plus it's from Dorman so it'll probably break on first usage :rolleyes:

Bicycle tire irons work fine.

HarryD 01-09-2023 02:12 PM

And to pinch the clamps, I used this: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Apollo/5013846251?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-ggl-_-LIA_PLB_142_Pipe-Fittings-_-5013846251-_-local-_-0-_-0&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiAk--dBhABEiwAchIwkct713nm3nDxEG-7Vz9wOhYb7JWfWGPmAIVGXG7CtDdbxkTrQF32-BoCA2EQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

jwakil 01-09-2023 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxnofx (Post 11892504)
Get 4 of these: https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/00004330644.htm?pn=000-043-306-44-M60&SVSVSI=590&DID=19433

Spend $50 total.

You don't need that tool above - plus it's from Dorman so it'll probably break on first usage :rolleyes:

Bicycle tire irons work fine.

I have an 81’ so apparently for that car I have to buy the full kit which costs $350 for 4. That’s why I was asking if I can just get the rubber and use my existing flange. The rubber from another source will only run $25 total. $25 vs $350 justifies a little work for me. If a tire iron works and I don’t need that special tool then would be worth it.

rdimarco 01-09-2023 03:58 PM

Take the CV joint off the axle. No need to stretch a boot over the joint.

HarryD 01-09-2023 04:35 PM

Looks like you need this. Boot attached to plate already. https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/92333203700.htm?pn=923-332-037-00-M60&SVSVSI=572&DID=7378

TxGerman 01-09-2023 04:51 PM

Not to send you down a different rabbit hole, but when I went through this last year I did a bunch of research (here and elsewhere) regarding the issues and risks of the driveshaft bolts coming loose (specific to the SC design, not 930 or 3.2). After evaluating many different engineering solutions, I decided to buy a full set of moon washers (I believe these are not stock to an SC....or at least were not on mine) which provides better load distribution and then decided to go with Stage8 bolts. That system gave me extremely high confidence that I would not ever have my drive shaft bolts come loose. Like I said....rabbit hole, but if you're already replacing or repairing your drive shafts, you may want to consider this upgrade.

wrxnofx 01-09-2023 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdimarco (Post 11892580)
Take the CV joint off the axle. No need to stretch a boot over the joint.

Exactly. But you still need to stretch the boot onto the flange.

winders 01-09-2023 08:44 PM

Stage8 bolts don't stop the bolts from loosening enough to lose appropriate clamping pressure.

DaytonaCoupe66 01-10-2023 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxnofx (Post 11892718)
Exactly. But you still need to stretch the boot onto the flange.

Not really; remove the CV joints, inspect and repack them, then affix the boot before you put the joint back on. Messy but a one banana job. A bit of manipulation is required but not the level of violence to the rubber that stretching the entire boot over the joint will induce. Anything worth doing is worth doing well.....the first time.

PeteKz 01-10-2023 09:05 PM

This. This is how I did it the last time. Messy, have lots of paper towel and wear gloves.

jwakil 01-24-2023 11:26 AM

I ended up just getting the boots and reinstalling on existing flanges. It was not too hard to install the boots with a little bent spoon handle. But what a messy job. Holy cow! I went through a whole role of paper towels and then half the total time in trying to clean up. Getting the preinstalled flange/boot combo might have saved a little pain but not much since removing at least one joint is required regardless, so the mess is unavoidable unless you get the full axle assembly. I was surprised how much grease was still left in the joint as I'm sure they had been broken for some time, and it still looked fresh. I didn't bother doing a complete evacuate and regrease. It was too much mess and decided if the joints were to go bad, I would just replace the the whole axle assembly next time as the price is not that outrageous.


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