jacking up your G model/putting on the spare

[89TRBO]

So I haven't had the need to do this yet, but I'd like to be prepared.

Any recommendations for using the provided jack/toolkit? (I may need to source an aftermarket one or an OEM, so if anyone has any connections for that I'd appreciate it.)

Jack stands necessary? Placement of jack/jack stands?

My e-brake is "meh" at best at the moment, so I'd like to have a relatively safe setup if possible out on the road should I need it.

Thanks!

[blucille]

Oh boy. There’s ton of advice to be given here.

A few tidbits.

The factory jack is sketchy at best. Be sure to break lugs nuts free while the car is on the ground. The factory manual states the temporary spare should only be fitted to the front axle. So a flat on the rear means you move the good front tire to the rear. The factory jack location raises both front and rear axle off the ground. Be sure you are very firm/flat surface and a block of wood helps to stabilize the jack. Also. Of course. Chock the wheels on the other side of the car.

There is a jack point adapter available thru our host and other places that allows you to use a floor jack but lift the car from the factory location. Handy to carry even if you don’t carry around a hydraulic floor jack, as any roadside assistance can lift from the factory location without fear of denting the floor or kinking and oil line.

[Schulisco]

Read on here
https://www.pelicanparts.com/911/911tech_articles.htm or buy the fabulous book "101 Projects for Your Porsche 911, 1964-1989" from our host Wayne Dempsey, co-founder of Pelican Parts...

The questioned info is here:
https://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/101_Projects_Porsche_911/01-Jacking_Up/01-Jacking_Up.htm

Thomas

[EC900]

Try to find time to adjust the parking brake, it not that difficult.

Jack pad adapter is essential, I picked up a scissor jack too, may prove more stable. Keep proper lug torque but I carry my own socket and breaker bar, foot air pump in case the compressor fails, flat-fix plugs, flashlight, gloves, a mat to kneel or lay on, a couple of large plastic bags - one for the muddy tire if needed the other to wear as a poncho if raining. Swapping out just the rear tire is ok but if only going short distance and at low speed with a MidYear space saver spare.

Teetering with two wheels in the air…on the side of the road, in the dark and its raining…yikes.

Keep a wide piece or two of wood 2x6” will do, use as a base for any jack so you won’t sink or dig into soft pavement, extra wood blocks will also give you some added lift height, have a chock too and keep car in gear while lifting, the rear tire doesn’t get as high as the front unless it’s flat.

For garage maintenance - yes two jack stands. For the road maybe one, but I’ve used the spare tire and wood block underneath as the fail-safe.

Lots of junk in the trunk just the probability of a flat tire when a motor club might be easier.

[PeteKz]

I have accumulated short (6-8" or so) 2x4 and 2x6 blocks in all my cars. They are handy for lots of things. Chocking wheels, support under the jack, makeshift mallet, etc. At that size, they fit easily into nooks in the frunk or under the seats. Don't leave home without them.

[Mark Salvetti]

My vote is for an aftermarket scissor jack. With that you can jack up a front wheel from under the A-arm, or a rear wheel from the trailing arm. No need to teeter on two wheels.

Folds up pretty small and fits in front of the fuel tank by the bumper (at least it does without a front AC fan).

Mark

[darrin]

counterpoint -- I swapped between winter and summer wheels with the factory jack for years w/o issue (lifting up and swapping wheels on one side at a time). At a minimum be sure to practice/use the jack in a controlled environment to know what you're getting into and invest in a pair of wheel chocks to lock one of the good wheels down. Now use a jack point adaptor and an AC hydraulic floor jack from our host for these duties, but wouldn't hesitate to use the factory jack in a pinch.

[89TRBO]

Thanks! Do you use the Schwaben regular or long arm jack?

Originally Posted by darrin

counterpoint -- I swapped between winter and summer wheels with the factory jack for years w/o issue (lifting up and swapping wheels on one side at a time). At a minimum be sure to practice/use the jack in a controlled environment to know what you're getting into and invest in a pair of wheel chocks to lock one of the good wheels down. Now use a jack point adaptor and an AC hydraulic floor jack from our host for these duties, but wouldn't hesitate to use the factory jack in a pinch.

[Noah930]

I have used the factory jack which everyone deems so sketchy. But it was on a flat parking lot during the afternoon. Nevertheless, it seemed perfectly fine for a quickie roadside repair. However, the jackpad thingie and a floorjack is clearly a better option, so I keep one of those (jackpad adapters) in the car, too.

[gtc]

The factory jack works just fine. I'd honestly rather use it than some crappy little floor jack. Also consider where and how you would keep a floor jack secured in a 911...
There are a few tricks to it, like angling the bottom inwards toward the center of the car a bit (otherwise the top of the jack will hit the body when you raise the car up high). If your e-brake doesn't work well, consider some folding wheel chocks or similar.

Make sure your air compressor works. If you have the original, consider storing it and putting a modern compressor in the car.

A longer lug wrench is nice to have. It's a little more weight to carry around, but i like having a 1/2" breaker bar and socket in the car.

[darrin]

Originally Posted by 89TRBO

Thanks! Do you use the Schwaben regular or long arm jack?

I bought this one from pelican when it first came out (for a lot less than current price if memory serves). -- VERY happy with it, have used it to lift and work on some HEAVY vehicles (2004 vw Touareg) as well as some with very low clearance. https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/TOL13HLQ.htm?pn=TOL-13HLQ&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnrmlBhDHARIsADJ5b_nQfkNW3B9bZdIKdGvj ouUcdQbPbFueytmqJVeTQ2xLW_8hEZR4fYcaAjIOEALw_wcB

[GH85Carrera]

The factory jack will work just fine, but be careful, and plan ahead.

I had a 74 914 2.0 for 26 years. I did all the mechanical work with just that jack, and some jack stands. A 914 uses the same setup as a 911.

[Cevan]

No one has brought this up but given the spare in my car is 37 years old, is it wise to trust it on the road? I have removed mine and aired it up with the factory compressor just to see if it holds air and inspect it. No obvious defects. It did return to its compressed form upon letting the air out.

[David Inc.]

Originally Posted by Cevan

No one has brought this up but given the spare in my car is 37 years old, is it wise to trust it on the road? I have removed mine and aired it up with the factory compressor just to see if it holds air and inspect it. No obvious defects. It did return to its compressed form upon letting the air out.

Yeah I wouldn't trust it on the road. Mine sits in there as decoration, the patch kit and compressor are what would do the work.

[darrin]

Agree, compressor (which may give you all you need to limp to nearest safe place if you have a slow leak) and patch kit (which can frequently be successfully used w/o removing wheel) are my first line of defense. Only swap on (original, vintage) spare as last resort

[spuggy]

LOL. I always used a small (2 ton) trolley jack with a jack pad adapter as car didn't come with a factory jack. Later bought a factory Green Dot jack (allegedly a lot less rickety & scary than the earlier ones) and used it to jack the car up once in my garage - on a flat & level concrete floor, so a lot better than you might find out in the world.

Yeh - didn't like it one bit; too much creaking and shifting for my liking. Said "nope", let it down, used the trolley jack - and put it back in the car after; fits in the recess in front of the fuel tank just fine and works a lot better..

Kind of like the factory tire inflator that makes a lot more noise than an aftermarket one costing $40 that works better...

If you're concerned about the age of the spare, remember that other Porsches use the same 5x130 bolt pattern and their spares tend to be alloy - and a lot newer. I have a 965 spare to clear my front brake calipers, but apparently 996 and 986 spares also fit...

As it wasn't mentioned yet (edit: duh, blucille mentioned it in the first reply, kudos - and my bad for missing it) - and may not be widely known - it is said that the emergency spare should only be fitted to the front. So if you have a rear puncture, move the front wheel to the rear and fit the spare to the front.