trying to keep the back seats up!

[Montreal911]

Hi guys, I am trying to keep the back seats up on my '74 Coupe (i have kids).

The interior was nicely re-done by PO but he didn't need the seats to be in the 'up' position so he didn't install the leather strap/mechanism to keep the seats up. My car is the beige seats in the picture below. On the picture, the seat is balanced in the up position but will fall back down at the first bump... either fall down or on my kids back which is uncomfortable

I am looking for a way to keep the seats up in a non-intrusive manner.. I found this picture online (back seats with a red thingy to lock/unlock seats..) ...can I install this?

any other ideas?

[Montreal911]

[sabeo.m]

hi- red pull/spring locking knobs are for later G series Carrera models. older 911's use leather straps with button snaps, that snap the rear seat to the rear deck. hope this helps.

[psychoideas]

You can install the red button doovilackys as I have done it, but that centre piece you can see in the pis is welded to the body. It does have a tab at the top and bottom so I suppose you could pop rivet it with good quality stainless steel rivets.
You will then need to take the seats out to drill the holes to install the red pins through.

I'll try and find a pic of mine.

[30westrob]

Why not just put the OEM type straps back in. Rob

[sabeo.m]

Originally Posted by 30westrob

Why not just put the OEM type straps back in. Rob

Agreed- very easy to do. I replaced mine.


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[Jameel]

I made new straps with scrap leather, some dye, and new snap parts from the fabric store. Part of the snap can be reused. Fun, easy project that makes you feel good when it's done, and it will look totally stock.

[canamfan]

Totally agree with the others for using OEM straps, simply factory cleverness that works like a charm

[kavadarci]

Mine were bone dry and broke. Local shoe repair shop made two new for 20 bucks.

[HarryD]

I decided to go with Velcro Straps to hold my seats up.

[Montreal911]

thanks for the posts gents! i think i'll use an old leather belt to do my own 'OEM'

anyone has a handy picture of what OEM looks like?

[macssc911]

Check I believe our host sells the straps

[HarryD]

Sierra Madre Collection has them. Part number 911.522.063.00

[85911]

I make mine and here's a link to the posting.

rear seat straps

One suggestion I had is to make sure you use thick enough leather. The liquid stain made mine almost elastic therby changing their original shape.

[69porsche]

Originally Posted by psychoideas

You can install the red button doovilackys as I have done it, but that centre piece you can see in the pis is welded to the body. It does have a tab at the top and bottom so I suppose you could pop rivet it with good quality stainless steel rivets.
You will then need to take the seats out to drill the holes to install the red pins through.

I'll try and find a pic of mine.

Where you able to find a photo and do convert your car to have these red latches hold up the seat?

[psychoideas]

OK, here are the pics.
I remembered incorrectly because it has only one tab but I'm sure you can fit it up if you really wanted to.

As you can see, you can use this piece to locate the holes you need to drill in your seats for the pins.

Let me know how it goes.


Part No 911 501 041 00

It's been superseded to a new part number but just follow the trail and make sure you are sitting down when you check the price.


extra parts needed.
91152222900 pins
91152223300 springs
91152223100 red knobs
91152222701 frame that holds it all together

99952310602 washers
N0141338 screws that hold it all to the rear seat.

These are old numbers but you'll still be able to find them from these.

[69porsche]

Originally Posted by psychoideas

OK, here are the pics.
I remembered incorrectly because it has only one tab but I'm sure you can fit it up if you really wanted to.

As you can see, you can use this piece to locate the holes you need to drill in your seats for the pins.

Let me know how it goes.


Part No 911 501 041 00

It's been superseded to a new part number but just follow the trail and make sure you are sitting down when you check the price.


extra parts needed.
91152222900 pins
91152223300 springs
91152223100 red knobs
91152222701 frame that holds it all together

99952310602 washers
N0141338 screws that hold it all to the rear seat.

These are old numbers but you'll still be able to find them from these.

Did you have to modify the actual seat components or was it plug and play?....I understand the center part is modified from earlier production years and had to be welded /bolted in to retain the seats in the upright position

[psychoideas]

Yes, the seats have to have 3 holes drilled in them each. One for the pin. and two for the mounting screws.
Very easy to do. The bracket has the new seat hinge pin welded into it. So, out of the car, you put the seat onto the hinge pin of the new bracket, and mark the lock pin hole location through the new bracket and onto the seat frame. That way you are sure of it lining up.
Then two 5mm clearance holes need to be drilled through the seat frame to hold the lock pin mechanism to the seat.

The hardest part is installing the new bracket.

P.S. In Australia we are not allowed to use the leather strap. Seats must be positively locked in an upright position. Since the early 70's so it seems

[69porsche]

Originally Posted by psychoideas

Yes, the seats have to have 3 holes drilled in them each. One for the pin. and two for the mounting screws.
Very easy to do. The bracket has the new seat hinge pin welded into it. So, out of the car, you put the seat onto the hinge pin of the new bracket, and mark the lock pin hole location through the new bracket and onto the seat frame. That way you are sure of it lining up.
Then two 5mm clearance holes need to be drilled through the seat frame to hold the lock pin mechanism to the seat.

The hardest part is installing the new bracket.

P.S. In Australia we are not allowed to use the leather strap. Seats must be positively locked in an upright position. Since the early 70's so it seems

Much appreciated! I like the idea of having the rear seats in the upright position at times but I am not keen on the leather straps. Cheers

[mxtx]

Did anyone manage to get this done? Thinking about converting my '85 to lock upright as well now that I have a kid as well. Am I understanding this right?

ONE of these as the center piece:

91150104102

TWO of each of the other pieces to work on either side:

91152222900 pins
91152223300 springs
91152223100 red knobs
91152222701 frame that holds it all together

Correct?

A lot cheaper than upgrading to an actual 964...