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lada03 03-20-2024 04:55 PM

Help removing SC seats
 
So i had a 3.2 carrera at one point and easily removed the seats with an allen wrench.

Now, i have a 81’ 911sc, and cant find the bit to get to the 2 bolts(per each side) and and remove them. Its a very tight fit, cant get anything that fits between the rails with a ratchet

Did anyone have this issue? Willing to buy the correct attachment with ratchet to make my life easier

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710978874.jpg

boyt911sc 03-20-2024 05:11 PM

Thin Wall 10-mm Socket………
 
Use a thin Wall 10-mm socket to remove the 2 bolts on the seat rail. Or ground the wall of the socket to fit. The one I have is from Craftsman Tool Set.

Tony

lada03 03-20-2024 05:17 PM

Thanks tony

lada03 03-20-2024 05:39 PM

Do you think this will work?

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Metric-Shaped-Angled-Socket/dp/B09XDB8YZ4?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A30WUG2ZDGM0XM

aoncurly 03-20-2024 07:05 PM

This is what I used to get to those two nuts with a thin wall socket:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07M5BJZY1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The low profile wrench worked great - my seat blocked the upper portion of the nut head, and I also had Craftsman sockets which fit.

lada03 03-20-2024 07:31 PM

I tried a 3/8th craftman socket and it was too thick to get in between the rails

lada03 03-20-2024 07:32 PM

I will definitely buy this wrench, just need a thin wall socket for it

lada03 03-20-2024 07:49 PM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B079NKGQ26/ref=ox_sc_act_title_delete_1?smid=A1THAZDOWP300U&p sc=1


Hopefully the combination with the low profile wrench will do it

boyt911sc 03-20-2024 08:01 PM

10-mm Thin Wall Socket………
 
Use 1/4” drive 10-mm thin wall socket (Craftsman) or other brand. The 3/8” drive 10-mm thin wall socket will not work because it is too big unless you grind it down to fit.

Tony

lada03 03-20-2024 08:08 PM

Thanks so much Tony.

Just Changed my amazon order

https://www.amazon.com/CRAFTSMAN-Shallow-Socket-6-Point-CMMT43508/dp/B07QH891K6/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1HPL4L5X35NUC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9 .Bn2bMjNZ22DF9eiWGHitpXePbeP33Jim4h1JrtaWD51d9GzL3 pnFPf3_aj8-drMTzNW2gJzsd7Qxa_4BzgS83U9E0jGJt_GIuY7aylIhn0cbKP Xkk6bUtvUo7qqDLFY0NeIVX99itaosP5GztsS0jOiNG79aKcHQ 1jE0pJZE3sxBvXOhfIAaj-_H19t1V8Rs_4TM1TIOicLcW8SXXQ8giQ.LgawHYodNTWE0OQk2 wVPBRgXdy6PIbmtMFFhJj6G6kI&dib_tag=se&keywords=1%2 F4+drive+10-mm+thin+wall+socket&qid=1710990480&sprefix=%2Caps% 2C277&sr=8-3

yelcab1 03-20-2024 08:20 PM

Grind down a socket to fit ....

Jonny042 03-21-2024 05:32 AM

Snap-on 1/4" drive should fit, they don't get much thinner than that...

targa80 03-21-2024 06:05 AM

+++1

boyt911sc 03-21-2024 06:17 AM

Use The Appropriate Tools…….
 
These are what you need to remove the SC seats from the rails. Use the shorter socket for the rear bolts.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711027029.jpg

Tony

lada03 03-21-2024 06:21 AM

Thanks everyone

I ordered the low profile wrench and thin wall 10mm 1/4 drive craftsman

Otter74 03-21-2024 07:51 AM

Replace the bolts with socket head cap screws of a suitable grade when you put the seats back in - you'll find it easier to remove them again in the future if you need to.

Dpmulvan 03-21-2024 02:11 PM

10mm probably around 18ftlbs not sure just guessing.

lada03 03-21-2024 02:26 PM

Bolts upgrade
 
Well, i got the right tools and 10min job, I love this forum. What a wealth of knowledge, thsnk you all :)


I went though my parts stash and found 10mm allen wrench bolts
They look a bit shorter than the SC bolts. I have 6, short a few… maybe someone has a couple?

Also found a couple with a cut. Which ones are correct?

In the picture, the oem SC bolts have the washers

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711055941.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711056073.jpg

shoooo32 03-22-2024 09:05 AM

I swapped my SC to allen heads after the first time I struggled to get a 10mm in there...

It makes seat removal a breeze, which in turn makes other repairs easier.

Locker537 03-22-2024 09:14 AM

Belmetric, McMaster-Carr, or your local hardware store will have what you need.

Buy the right grade. I'd buy 10.9 or higher as I see no reason not to.

lada03 03-23-2024 12:05 AM

Thanks! Ordered these from
Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09WYVTQQ1/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A30WUG2ZDGM0XM&psc=1

EC900 03-23-2024 12:48 PM

I used a 1/4” drive, after going thru a few sets found that Dewalt was a good fit, they’re just thin enough to get in between rail. Added another stainless steel lock washer under the bolt for next time, just to give a little extra height. Doesn’t interfere with slider motion.

I wasn’t impressed with using socket head bolts and thought maybe Torx would be better for removal but the original bolts with thicker washers aren’t a problem now. Thing about allen and Torx is you never know who’s going to mess up the head using either the wrong size or tool SAE vs MM.

Also found socket head cap bolts at the local Ace Hardware, availability at Menards too, but their stock is always so messy and mixed up by guys that forget their reading glasses - which is also why socket head caps get stripped !

pmax 03-23-2024 04:00 PM

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900075005702 M6x16 Hexagon-head bolt

Socket head collects dirt and debris which might need cleaning out for the allen to seat, sits higher too. Not a fan of them here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aoncurly (Post 12216888)
This is what I used to get to those two nuts with a thin wall socket:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07M5BJZY1

The low profile wrench worked great - my seat blocked the upper portion of the nut head, and I also had Craftsman sockets which fit.


The low profile wrench, a delightful addition to the toolbox for the 911, works great with my cheapo 1/4" 10mm socket. Thanks for the link. The OEM M6x16 hex head is grade 8.8 and the torque on them was probably 10 ftlbs or less given how easily each turned.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711234026.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711234238.jpg


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