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All rocker shafts installed slightly out of place?

All of the rocker shafts on my 84 Targa were installed with the rocker shafts slightly protruding from the small side.

They are all installed this way, so it appears to be done on purpose.

Is this okay or do I need to redo all of them?



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nope, that is the correct place for them...
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nope, that is the correct place for them...
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Check the picture below. The the nut and the shaft itself is slightly protruding.

I've read that the shaft (but not the nut or bushing) should be either flush with the small side or 1mm inside the small side. Either way the nut should be protruding.

What is the correct position?

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like i said you are fine do not worry about it..only if you like ,check if they are tight.But if there is no oil leak leave it alone, as i have mentioned, 1st;-)

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like i said you are fine do not worry about it..only if you like ,check if they are tight.But if there is no oil leak leave it alone, as i have mentioned, 1st;-)
Ok, thanks! I'll check torque but not move them if they are not leaking or only slightly out of the bore.

At what point of protrusion should the shafts be repositioned?

What is the ideal position?

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As Ivan said, if it isn't leaking, don't mess with it.

The shaft should be inside the bore. If it's outside the bore, then when you tighten the nut, it could split the shaft.
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ok i try one more time
The position of your rocker shafts are where they should be, no more inside no more outside.This picture from factory is wrong and deceiving...we went through this last year i think do some search of the forum
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As Ivan said, the position is correct; the goal is to locate both o-ring seals in the rocker bosses evenly. With one boss narrower than the other the shaft has to look like it's not centered in order for it to be centered.
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I installed this upgrade with RSR o-rings. Eliminates rocker shaft creep and oil leaks via the shafts. Easy install.
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The pic would not load. Turbo Craft rocker shaft lock set.
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As Ivan said, if it isn't leaking, don't mess with it...
Yep, I agreed with that above.

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The shaft should be inside the bore. If it's outside the bore, then when you tighten the nut, it could split the shaft.
Some of my shafts are slightly protruding...not just the nut or bolt, but the shaft itself.

If it is not leaking then leave it alone, I get that.

If it is slightly leaking (a few of mine are), then I should reposition the shaft to flush or very slightly inside the small bore, maybe 1mm, and then retorque?
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Flush, not recessed. The shaft itself, not the outer "nut" pieces.
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That picture is based on the first couple years production, the shafts were shorter then.
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Flush, not recessed. The shaft itself, not the outer "nut" pieces.
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Flush, not recessed. The shaft itself, not the outer "nut" pieces.
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A few of my shafts were leaking, see the first pic below. The leaks were not enough to create drips on the floor, but it was enough to make a mess.

I spent a few minutes cleaning them up (second pic below) and then I torqued the ones I suspected of leaking to 25nm...hopefully this will stop the leak.

Thanks for all your help!


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A few of my shafts were leaking, see the first pic below. The leaks were not enough to create drips on the floor, but it was enough to make a mess.
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You call that a mess? That's just fuzz.
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ok i try one more time
The position of your rocker shafts are where they should be, no more inside no more outside.This picture from factory is wrong and deceiving...we went through this last year i think do some search of the forum
Hummmm, I need to go back and check my rebuild. Thanks for the input.
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That really is a terribly misleading drawing. Somebody's got to do a new one that's a little more to scale.

I remember checking John Walker's comment by measuring the bores, the shafts, and the intermediate space to find the protrusions with the shaft centered and it's accurate to having the shaft flush with the bore on the small side.

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