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proporsche 01-04-2025 08:31 AM

i did post this before ..on another thread.....back in 2008 a stoned girl in her Prius in LA hit me hard from behind , i guess she did not see the red light ahead.Front of her Prius was total goner ..i drove away ..she had to get tow truck........here is a pic on my 911 bumper .Just had to replace one bumper shock and realign it Not even scratch to the paint....if i would have the euro type or none ,there would have been mucho damage...;-)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736007981.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736008107.jpg

REVerend 01-04-2025 08:42 AM

Why did I ditch mine? It started with nonfunctional license plate illumination which turned out, in part, to stem from rusted out bits inside the bumperette. They were a mess inside and I didn’t really like them anyway so they got ditched. Ended up using some LED bolt things to stay legal with license plate illumination and the back end looks much cleaner now.

75 911s 01-04-2025 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by proporsche (Post 12384614)
i did post this before ..on another thread.....back in 2008 a stoned girl in her Prius in LA hit me hard from behind , i guess she did not see the red light ahead

Lucky it wasn't a F150, millions of them on the road. I would say in my neighborhood of 100 houses and roughly 200 cars, 190 of them would impact me at the decklid or rear reflector. So what good are those bumperettes in this day and age?

avenbugt 01-04-2025 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Triesch (Post 12384588)
The only people who ever said anything negative about my bumperetts was no one.

Many 'no ones' among us...
But as I said before: Tastes and colors are not up for discussion.

pmax 01-04-2025 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proporsche (Post 12384614)
i did post this before ..on another thread.....back in 2008 a stoned girl in her Prius in LA hit me hard from behind , i guess she did not see the red light ahead.Front of her Prius was total goner ..i drove away ..she had to get tow truck........here is a pic on my 911 bumper .Just had to replace one bumper shock and realign it Not even scratch to the paint....if i would have the euro type or none ,there would have been mucho damage...;-)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736007981.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736008107.jpg

Bumpers did their job.

Would have done the same for more than 50% of the vehicles on the road extrapolating from this list.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736023083.jpg

pmax 01-04-2025 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75 911s (Post 12384646)
Lucky it wasn't a F150, millions of them on the road. I would say in my neighborhood of 100 houses and roughly 200 cars, 190 of them would impact me at the decklid or rear reflector. So what good are those bumperettes in this day and age?

Small cars don't tend to do well hit by any of the "man-sized" behemoths commonplace these days, say your goodbyes if it's a Cybertruck.

Luckily, on the open roads or the hills, not as many there .... however ... if one does show up in your rearview mirror, that simply means you're not driving fast enough ;)

That's where driving the 911 is the most enjoyable anyway and where the 911 spends most of its time unless you happen to be someone in LA.

I'll keep the bumpers.
As the OP pointed out, good place for beer and tools as well.

Snitzler 01-04-2025 02:57 PM

They are over 14 lbs together way out on the back of a rear mounted engine car. Reason enough for me and I don't like the look of them.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736031391.JPG

fintstone 01-04-2025 03:18 PM

I like the look. Mine looks just like a new one did back when I was in high school. It would look naked without the bumperettes.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736032553.JPG

fintstone 01-04-2025 03:27 PM

The black makes a pretty good contrast on this one (1989) too. To me, it looks just like it is supposed to look.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736033132.JPG

pmax 01-04-2025 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 12384886)
I like the look. Mine looks just like a new one did back when I was in high school. It would look naked without the bumperettes.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736032553.JPG

Looks fine on this 356 as well.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736035764.jpg

In contrast, this plastic rear cover aka bumpers below are just massive and high and seems to getting more so in each new generation ... IMO of course !

I do get why though ... the aforementioned rolling behemoths.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736038702.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736038460.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736038560.jpg

A930Rocket 01-04-2025 05:41 PM

1981 911SC ROW - I kept the small bumperettes on.

1987 930 - I removed the bumperettes, because the hot turbo was melting the left one.

1986 911 - leaving the bumperettes on.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736041235.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736041044.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736041288.jpg

famoroso 01-06-2025 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 12384763)
Bumpers did their job.

Would have done the same for more than 50% of the vehicles on the road extrapolating from this list.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736023083.jpg

Man, I wish it was still 2008.

Alas, the landscape has worsened, dramatically, in the ensuing sixteen+ years...

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g60385784/bestselling-cars-2024/

Besides, I don't think getting hit by a current Accord, Camry, Subaru, etc will be THAT much better than all the pickups & SUVs on the road these days.

If one is intellectually honest about driving our funny little German cars in modern traffic, we are dancing with elephants (including the Accords & Camrys) at all times, save for, perhaps, the queue on the way into Luftgekühlt.

Plastic bumper covers aside, the actual bumper heights of opposing vehicles is largely unfavorable...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736161998.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736161998.jpg


If your bumperettes save you in a rear end collision, don't bother going out and buying a lotto ticket that day as you've already used up all your luck.

pmax 01-06-2025 06:19 PM

The trend is certainly not a friend of our little cars however ... average age of vehicles on the road is 12-13 years and the bloating seems to have gotten a lot worse only in the past couple years so don't count them out yet.

That lowering them is common practice doesn't help !

Here's my Targa at what I believe is factory height ... it still has a good fighting chance, relatively speaking ...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736216010.jpg

just like this one here ...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736047383.jpg

creaturecat 01-06-2025 06:36 PM

the tubes absorb the hits. the extra fatness of the butt ugly-ugly butt units would be marginally better, it anything.

coolcardaddy 01-06-2025 06:52 PM

I love the delete look and its on my to do list. But, I do like the ability to sit on them from time to time.

https://i.imgur.com/hudHtxVh.jpg

SpyderMike 01-07-2025 09:52 AM

I had two rear ending experience in SoCal traffic back in the 1990s. The first one was minimal damage as the hit squarely at roughly the same height. All was good, save some scuffing. In the second one, I had my foot off the brakes and the small car hit me pretty good. I got out and met the driver at the rear of the car and she was happy that my car was not damaged. We walked to the front of my car and found that she had pushed me under the pickup in front of me...the one with a metal bumper and trailer hitch with ball. That truck took out both front fenders, hood and front bulkhead. She almost cried. Insurance wanted to scrap the car, but I talked them out of it. I still have it, although it has been backdated now.

My take is that the big fat rear bumperettes "might" help in the right situation. I never liked that heavy look of the 1980s cars (mine is an 85). When I removed all that mess to backdate the car. I couldn't believe how much it all weighed...

Martinlassmann 01-07-2025 01:13 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736283900.jpg
Here my version. The side rubber is made from the Frontbumper rubber. The lights are standard.

famoroso 01-08-2025 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 12386082)
The trend is certainly not a friend of our little cars however ... average age of vehicles on the road is 12-13 years and the bloating seems to have gotten a lot worse only in the past couple years so don't count them out yet.

That lowering them is common practice doesn't help !

The other trend, apart from a small handful of holdouts, is that these cars are no longer daily driven / commuted in.

Perhaps people will start raising ride heights and adding bumperettes across the full width of the bumper? 😉

75 911s 01-08-2025 08:06 AM

This thread is exactly like the thread about the same topic that occurred 5 years ago. I think it's the same commenters (including myself) too. lol

Racerbvd 01-08-2025 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75 911s (Post 12384646)
Lucky it wasn't a F150, millions of them on the road. I would say in my neighborhood of 100 houses and roughly 200 cars, 190 of them would impact me at the decklid or rear reflector. So what good are those bumperettes in this day and age?

I got T-Boned by a F150 doing over 70 in my968, I still feel it,

dictoresno 01-08-2025 10:54 PM

I honestly don't mind them, most of the time. I thought about replacing them for something more sleek but I would rather put the money elsewhere for now. they do make great beer and tool holders and are great to sit on however.

pmax 01-08-2025 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famoroso (Post 12386938)
The other trend, apart from a small handful of holdouts, is that these cars are no longer daily driven / commuted in.

Perhaps people will start raising ride heights and adding bumperettes across the full width of the bumper? ��

These people ? :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736407568.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736407793.jpg

Wonder how that bull bar's braced for impact.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736408389.jpg

pmax 01-08-2025 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75 911s (Post 12386954)
This thread is exactly like the thread about the same topic that occurred 5 years ago. I think it's the same commenters (including myself) too. lol

Something like this might help in your neighborhood :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736407919.jpg

famoroso 01-09-2025 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 12387495)

Nor for me with a G, but were I to daily a modern 911, I think I'd want a non-graphics / non roof rack Dakar as the roads around here are pretty poor. My inner 17 year old, of course, would want a GT3 RS.

911 Rod 01-15-2025 01:57 PM

Timely thread for me as I've been thinking about putting them back on.
It's the holes that bother me and the trim is sticking out a little.
The TT has them so maybe the Carrera should too?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1736978209.jpg

famoroso 01-16-2025 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12391433)
Timely thread for me as I've been thinking about putting them back on.
It's the holes that bother me and the trim is sticking out a little.
The TT has them so maybe the Carrera should too?


Fill. Those. Holes. Mr. Rod. (read in your best Ronald Reagan voice)

Then, drill a pair of new holes in the bumper, at the ends of the rubber strips, so you can use a fastener to tighten them down. Post from a different thread outlining that procedure...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 76FJ55 (Post 10904165)
Got the rear bumper assembly mounted up. While I had it off I had the holes for the bumperettes welded up. I like the cleaner look without them, but wanted to retain the black stripe on the bumper as I think it flows well with the side molding and the front bumper's black center.

to retain the inboard end of the stripe i drilled an additional hole in the bumper inboard of where the bumper mounts attach. the lower edge of the bumper mounting washers is conveniently the center-line of the black strip. i laid a straight edge along the bottom of the washers and marked precisely 3-1/8 " from the existing mounting hole and marked the bumper. the distance aligns with the dimple on the back of the black strip, so I used it as the location to drill and tap the strip. the strip actually has a steel reinforcing plate inside, so I threaded it for a 4x0.7 mm screw. the additional screw nicely secures the inboard end tightly to the bumper.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1592088250.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1592088250.jpg


911 Rod 01-16-2025 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famoroso (Post 12391834)
Fill. Those. Holes. Mr. Rod. (read in your best Ronald Reagan voice)

Then, drill a pair of new holes in the bumper, at the ends of the rubber strips, so you can use a fastener to tighten them down. Post from a different thread outlining that procedure...

I can see that costing me a grand :D

famoroso 01-16-2025 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12391874)
I can see that costing me a grand :D

No question. Can you even drive out of a body shop for anything less than $1k these days? I haven't been able to.

Sounds like your option is to reinstall the bumperettes, or source some plugs and rattle can them red.

3rd_gear_Ted 01-16-2025 09:55 AM

If you adhere to the "form, fit & function" aspects of the Porsche Marque to its true intent, the bumperettes are a paradox to deal with. Originality vs addressing a Porsche design compromise forced by legislation of the 80's.

GH85Carrera 01-17-2025 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 12391923)
If you adhere to the "form, fit & function" aspects of the Porsche Marque to its true intent, the bumperettes are a paradox to deal with. Originality vs addressing a Porsche design compromise forced by legislation of the 80's.

Every new car on the road is forced to design to the legislation. That is why there are so many really ugly cars out on the road. A designer can't just make a nice looking car, it has to meet the many safety standards, and have a lot of electronic gizmos like backup cameras, traction control and on and on, making the cars bigger and bigger.

Personally, I love the look of the G body cars as Porsche sold them. It was one of the few cars that got better looking with the 5 MPH bumper laws in my opinion. My bumperettes will stay on my car, as well as the sugar scoops as long as I own it.

creaturecat 01-17-2025 03:24 PM

holes?
colour-matched plastic plugs gave acceptable results - for me.

pmax 01-18-2025 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 12391923)
If you adhere to the "form, fit & function" aspects of the Porsche Marque to its true intent, the bumperettes are a paradox to deal with. Originality vs addressing a Porsche design compromise forced by legislation of the 80's.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1737242206.jpg

Form follows function.

jwolfe 01-18-2025 09:45 PM

Did the euro update this week and loving the visual weight reduction. There’s a few blemishes left behind from the US bumperettes, so once spring comes I plan to fill the holes and repaint just the middle section (where the license plate sits) for a cleaner look.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1737265326.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1737265430.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1737265430.jpg


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