Kardex how to??

cdill · 10:46 AM

I recently purchased a car that is supposed to have a pretty amazing history. I would love to get a Kardex, but have no clue where to start. Can anyone here help out?

djpateman · 07-19-2014, 03:19 PM

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cdill · 07-19-2014, 06:55 PM

Thanks to those who have contacted me. I had one other party chime in that has sent off an email to the powers that be. If something falls through I will keep you posted.

Thanks again!

93nav · 07-19-2014, 08:20 PM

How is the Kardex different from the COA? Which has more info and is more accurate? I have a COA, how do I go about getting the Kardex for a 1976 Canadian 911?

Thanks

baloo · baloo's Garage

What is a Kardex? What is a COA?
I'd like to get histories on my Porsches -- not only the previous owners, but any service that might have been done by dealerships. Is this a Kardex/COA?
Thanks.

cdill · 10:48 AM

Kardex is the original build document from the factory. It is similar to the COA but it has some additional information like first owner information. Today with privacy laws it is very difficult to get this information! The car I found is a very early serial number and I believe it to be a prototype as the front fenders are slightly different in the upper part near the windshield than any other I've seen or been able to compare with. I was also told the original owner of the car was someone famous in Hollywood. If I can get the Kardex I will know 100%.

cgarr · cgarr's Garage

Is the vin number listed within the Porsche production numbers? If it's a prototype it may not be listed as a production car, we have a 74 turbo prototype that is not shown as being released to the market so there is no record of the vin number.

93nav · 07-20-2014, 11:23 AM

COA stands for Certificate o Authenticity, or something very similar. There are screen shots that show up in quite a few threads, so look around and you will see what they look like. You get them from PCNA, Porsche Club of North America. Takes approx $115 and six weeks. Not always 100% accurate or have all the info. Will show the correct engine number for the car and usually the tran number. This is what people use to determine if their car is 'numbers matching'.

Anyone with more knowledge care to chine in?

Quote:

Originally Posted by baloo

What is a Kardex? What is a COA?
I'd like to get histories on my Porsches -- not only the previous owners, but any service that might have been done by dealerships. Is this a Kardex/COA?
Thanks.

patina · 07-20-2014, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93nav

How is the Kardex different from the COA? Which has more info and is more accurate? I have a COA, how do I go about getting the Kardex for a 1976 Canadian 911?

Thanks

Kartex is not available for cars after 1973 IIRC

rlane930 · 07-20-2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cgarr

Is the vin number listed within the Porsche production numbers? If it's a prototype it may not be listed as a production car, we have a 74 turbo prototype that is not shown as being released to the market so there is no record of the vin number.

Is your '74 Turbo chassis number from 9305700001 to 9305700010? I would love to see one of these cars but have seen nothing in print or on the web.

cgarr · cgarr's Garage

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Originally Posted by rlane930

Is your '74 Turbo chassis number from 9305700001 to 9305700010? I would love to see one of these cars but have seen nothing in print or on the web.

I'll get the number but it starts with 9304.....

Unobtanium-inc · 07-22-2014, 10:00 AM

Actually, the Kartex is not available after 1970, I believe, but the information is still available. It just comes to you in text form with no fanfare. And not as much info as the card.

will hung · 07-22-2014, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93nav

COA stands for Certificate o Authenticity, or something very similar. There are screen shots that show up in quite a few threads, so look around and you will see what they look like. You get them from PCNA, Porsche Club of North America. Takes approx $115 and six weeks. Not always 100% accurate or have all the info. Will show the correct engine number for the car and usually the tran number. This is what people use to determine if their car is 'numbers matching'.

Anyone with more knowledge care to chine in?

That's pretty accurate. The issue with COA's is that if you have a ROW car, you can't get a COA from PCNA. I'm not sure where to get the info if you have a ROW car. This is actually something I'd like to get. I'm not so interested in the original owner of my car as much as I'm interested in its original configuration.

djpateman · 09-06-2014, 06:59 AM

I have been able to obtain a Kardex through 1969, but not for 1970 even though I have seen a few. While the cost is about double that of the COA, it does contain a bit more info, and may be more accurate than the COA. The COA is a fancy certificate that is based on the Kardex info. The Kardex itself is just an image file of the original, and is essentially a warranty document. While the COA will often give you a completion date, it is in reality the factory invoice date. I have been able to compare several Kardex (within the first 300 911) with the production book, and the invoice date is often a few weeks after completion. I have seen a factory invoice and the date on it was the same as the date on the Kardex.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 09-06-2014, 07:36 AM

Kardex

rogus · rogus's Garage

I've emailed Matt but not reply. Any other leads on how I can get the Kardex for my car?

djpateman · 10:46 AM

I am getting them regularly. However, only for 1969 and earlier. Very few are known for 1970 and none for later cars.

GH85Carrera · GH85Carrera's Garage

My understanding is the Porsche families kept all the Kardex when they sold the company to VW. The families own 51% of VW so they still have lots of say so at Porsche. Contacting the family is something that is NOT likely easy. They are one of the richest families in Europe.

djpateman · 04-19-2019, 04:47 PM

The Kardex have always been in the Factory Archives. They were scanned so that the information would not be lost to accident. The scans are used by all distributors when preparing CoA, PPS and whatever else. Of course they also have different records for the post 1969 cars.

Unobtanium-inc · 05-29-2019, 05:35 AM

I get tons of emails regarding Kardex from this thread. We're not able to get them for customers at this point. Our source in Germany is only comfortable giving them to us for our cars. With the demise of the COA, things are going to start to suck in terms of available data for these cars. It's really a shame that Porsche has decided to go this route. How are Porsche owners supposed to decide whether it's worth it to undergo a major restoration on their old 911 if they can't find out whether it's a matching numbers car? Does Porsche want everyone to tow their unrestored project to a Porsche Classic Center for a pricey evaluation? Oh well. - Matt