Anyone using the Seine Systems gate shift kit?
 

Any comments from anyone who has tried this kit on a 915 transmission?

Yup. Best under $200 mod you can make. If you have a later model 915, equip yourself with a Dremel or die grinder and a sharp metal cutting bit as a fair amount of metal needs to be removed from the housing. My car had new bushings from a recent trans job by PO, but I'd do them while I was in there. Took me about 2.5 hrs total, including removing the A/C switches and console.

There is a defined gate, but the spring on the 1/2 side is light enough that after a tank of gas or so you don't even notice that its there. Its enough to do its job, however.

we installed on on Jack Olsen's car and it works great!

Actually, I'm pretty sure I've got the Robotek. But I would've got the Seine one, if it had been available. It's a better design and a better value, IMO.

It's the best $150 I ever spent on my 911.

Ditto what Paul said AND customer support was stellar. Sherwood is a standup guy.

I have one to install on my 901 trans. Hopefully will get to it this weekend since I recieved my 915 housing today. Anyone else try it on the 901 yet?

I have it and like it a lot. Put it this way - I can't imagine NOT having it. Having all the slop in the shifter, well, I don't know how I put up with it. It feels like something that should have been in the car to begin with.

You gotta be kidding, right???
 

The Gate-Shift....???? Sherwood's gate shift...????

Well i'm here to tell ya that it's the absolute best value for improving the overall feel of the 915 as well as providing the best possible "notchy" feel as opposed to the "tossing a salad" amount of play that is normal to a 915.

Also it's the best value for darn near eliminating the possibility of the dreaded 5th to 2nd down shift......

I've had mine installed since last Sept and I can't see ever driving without it, and scores a 10 out of 10 with me.

odds are 1000 to 1 that you'll wonder why you didn't get one much sooner!!!!

Are people using the clamp, or having it welded?

Does it work with 914's side-shift trans?

Welded mine, but I have ready access to a mig. I suspect that JB Weld or similar would work as well if one removed the coating from the shift lever. It should cost you less than 5 bucks to have it welded at a muffler shop, and it only takes a couple minutes to set it up and re-remove it from the car.

I've heard others say JB Weld works great. It's on my "to do" list.

What's the best channel for purchasing this upgrade?

Direct or thru Wayne. Looks to maybe be 10 bucks less thru Wayne?

I'm planning on doing a factory short shift upgrade and replace my shifter bushings on my '82 SC sometime in the not too distant future. The gate shifter sounds like an interesting upgrade to do at the same time, but I am a little intimidated by the "fair amount of metal needs to be removed". Will this be necessary on my '82, and if so are instructions and/or pictures of this available somwhere?

Thanks,

Thanks for the product support. I think it does a good job at an affordable price point for most owners.

Regarding the amount of material to remove if a factory short shifter is used with the Gate Shift kit; "a fair amount of metal to be removed", I suppose, is relative. It's really not that much. Here are two images; the first is a stock, unmodified shift housing showing the side opening.

The second image shows the opening after metal removal (with die grinder, dremel, drum sander, or equiv.) to accommodate a factory short shift kit. All other "short shift" kits do not require this modification.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...reHousings.jpg

Sherwood
www.seinesystems.com
http://members.rennlist.org/911pcars

It shouldn't intimidate-it's just that a Dremel grinder isn't sufficient-get a good cutter and its really cake.

I used a Dremel to install mine, used a carbide grinding bit.

Best shifting modification I've done thus far. Much more positive shifting and confidence. Previously a missed shift cost me big time!

I also have the factory short shift installed, and had to clearance the side of the shift housing. I used my Dremel tool with the abrasive grinding wheel and it was no big deal really.

I afixed the new gateshift "tab" with JB Weld along with the hose clamp...worked great til I had PCA "driving instructors" behind the wheel, me being the "student" forgot to inform them that I had a gate shift installed and they were shifting like there was no tab....

They managed to bend the tab out of spec....:rolleyes: :eek:

But the JB Weld was still holding it in place...!!! So I managed to gingerly bend it back to it's original shape, and then removed the hoseclamp, and fabbed up a new tab out of 3/32 stainless, and mounted it over the top of the orig tab, with JB weld holding it in place and the reinstalled the hoseclamp over the new double thick re-inforced tab. Now, my hose clamp has a hex head on it so I was able to really crank down on it.

Now the thickness of both the original and new gateshift tabs are identical and the gate shift tab is quite a bit beefier than it was originally.

cheers!

The newest versions of the kit include a slightly thicker lever tab. In addition, the mounting area is preformed to the shape of the lever for increased surface contact area.

Sherwood
Seinesystems.com
http://members.rennlist.org/911pcars

Sherwood, Has any one other then your test vehicle intall this on a 901 yet? I hope to this or next weekend and was hoping someone has been down that road and can give a little feed back.

My kit came wih the new style tab. I have just used a hose clamp that came with the kit and so far and it has held on just fine.

dbyers wrote:
"Has any one other then your test vehicle install this on a 901 yet?"

Of the few kits sold that specifically mentioned a planned 901 application, no one has responded either way. Not sure if that's bad or good. Many positive comments on this thread are first-time remarks about the product. So, sometimes, no news is good news (?). There are a few user comments on the website as well.

Let me (us) know how the Gate Shift kit and 901 combination works out for you.

Sherwood

How does this interact with an existing Weltmeister short shift kit? I have an 81SC that just had a full trans job before I bought it 9 months ago and I have been told by other guest drivers that the trans is one of the slickest shifting transmissions around. However that is relative considering the trans, so I interested in this.

So, I am wondering, if it makes a bad shifting trans shift great, does it make a great shifting trans almost perfect?

mrbch wrote:
"How does this interact with an existing Weltmeister short shift kit?"

It interacts fine. Fully compatible.

".....does it make a great shifting trans almost perfect?

Well, no. But it does allow you to shift more accurately into the gear you want, versus into the gear you don't want.

Sherwood

Ya know, as a fully satisfied gate-shift user, I always want to share when ever a thread like this pops up, and it got me thinking.....

I've never seen (or heard of..) any post or rants of any *dis-satisfied* users...guys who've bought & installed it and it wasn't what they thought it it would be or didn't meet their expectations in some way....

anyway...the thought just crossed my mind....had to throw this out there...

cheers!!

. . . just ordered mine today

Mine shipped today...to be installed next Wed. Nothing like satisfied users. Next DE the 26th will tell the tale (have factory short shift kit already).
Ted in So Fla
'86 Carrera
Solo at last !

Will it work in a 914-6 tailshifter?

"Will it work in a 914-6 tailshifter?"

Don't know for sure. If the shifter has the same geometry as a 901 or 915 shifter, yes, it's possible. Can you post a pic of your current shift housing?

Regards,
Sherwood