Anyone using the Seine Systems gate shift kit?

c2 rower · 07-14-2003, 04:56 PM

Any comments from anyone who has tried this kit on a 915 transmission?

greglepore · 07-14-2003, 05:34 PM

Yup. Best under $200 mod you can make. If you have a later model 915, equip yourself with a Dremel or die grinder and a sharp metal cutting bit as a fair amount of metal needs to be removed from the housing. My car had new bushings from a recent trans job by PO, but I'd do them while I was in there. Took me about 2.5 hrs total, including removing the A/C switches and console.

There is a defined gate, but the spring on the 1/2 side is light enough that after a tank of gas or so you don't even notice that its there. Its enough to do its job, however.

TRE Cup · TRE Cup's Garage

we installed on on Jack Olsen's car and it works great!

Jack Olsen · 07-14-2003, 05:54 PM

Actually, I'm pretty sure I've got the Robotek. But I would've got the Seine one, if it had been available. It's a better design and a better value, IMO.

pbs911 · pbs911's Garage

It's the best $150 I ever spent on my 911.

MAS956 · 07-14-2003, 06:29 PM

Ditto what Paul said AND customer support was stellar. Sherwood is a standup guy.

DByers · 07-14-2003, 06:30 PM

I have one to install on my 901 trans. Hopefully will get to it this weekend since I recieved my 915 housing today. Anyone else try it on the 901 yet?

jazzbass · 07-14-2003, 06:36 PM

I have it and like it a lot. Put it this way - I can't imagine NOT having it. Having all the slop in the shifter, well, I don't know how I put up with it. It feels like something that should have been in the car to begin with.

RSupdate · RSupdate's Garage

The Gate-Shift....???? Sherwood's gate shift...????

Well i'm here to tell ya that it's the absolute best value for improving the overall feel of the 915 as well as providing the best possible "notchy" feel as opposed to the "tossing a salad" amount of play that is normal to a 915.

Also it's the best value for darn near eliminating the possibility of the dreaded 5th to 2nd down shift......

I've had mine installed since last Sept and I can't see ever driving without it, and scores a 10 out of 10 with me.

odds are 1000 to 1 that you'll wonder why you didn't get one much sooner!!!!

scottb · 07-14-2003, 11:00 PM

Are people using the clamp, or having it welded?

andyu911 · andyu911's Garage

Does it work with 914's side-shift trans?

greglepore · 07-15-2003, 04:12 AM

Welded mine, but I have ready access to a mig. I suspect that JB Weld or similar would work as well if one removed the coating from the shift lever. It should cost you less than 5 bucks to have it welded at a muffler shop, and it only takes a couple minutes to set it up and re-remove it from the car.

MAS956 · 07-15-2003, 08:09 AM

I've heard others say JB Weld works great. It's on my "to do" list.

mm86911 · mm86911's Garage

What's the best channel for purchasing this upgrade?

greglepore · 07-15-2003, 08:31 AM

Direct or thru Wayne. Looks to maybe be 10 bucks less thru Wayne?

EdT82SC · 07-15-2003, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greglepore
If you have a later model 915, equip yourself with a Dremel or die grinder and a sharp metal cutting bit as a fair amount of metal needs to be removed from the housing.

I'm planning on doing a factory short shift upgrade and replace my shifter bushings on my '82 SC sometime in the not too distant future. The gate shifter sounds like an interesting upgrade to do at the same time, but I am a little intimidated by the "fair amount of metal needs to be removed". Will this be necessary on my '82, and if so are instructions and/or pictures of this available somwhere?

Thanks,

911pcars · 07-15-2003, 06:00 PM

Thanks for the product support. I think it does a good job at an affordable price point for most owners.

Regarding the amount of material to remove if a factory short shifter is used with the Gate Shift kit; "a fair amount of metal to be removed", I suppose, is relative. It's really not that much. Here are two images; the first is a stock, unmodified shift housing showing the side opening.

The second image shows the opening after metal removal (with die grinder, dremel, drum sander, or equiv.) to accommodate a factory short shift kit. All other "short shift" kits do not require this modification.

Sherwood
www.seinesystems.com
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greglepore · 07-15-2003, 06:59 PM

It shouldn't intimidate-it's just that a Dremel grinder isn't sufficient-get a good cutter and its really cake.

cstreit · cstreit's Garage

I used a Dremel to install mine, used a carbide grinding bit.

Best shifting modification I've done thus far. Much more positive shifting and confidence. Previously a missed shift cost me big time!

RSupdate · RSupdate's Garage

I also have the factory short shift installed, and had to clearance the side of the shift housing. I used my Dremel tool with the abrasive grinding wheel and it was no big deal really.

I afixed the new gateshift "tab" with JB Weld along with the hose clamp...worked great til I had PCA "driving instructors" behind the wheel, me being the "student" forgot to inform them that I had a gate shift installed and they were shifting like there was no tab....

They managed to bend the tab out of spec....

But the JB Weld was still holding it in place...!!! So I managed to gingerly bend it back to it's original shape, and then removed the hoseclamp, and fabbed up a new tab out of 3/32 stainless, and mounted it over the top of the orig tab, with JB weld holding it in place and the reinstalled the hoseclamp over the new double thick re-inforced tab. Now, my hose clamp has a hex head on it so I was able to really crank down on it.

Now the thickness of both the original and new gateshift tabs are identical and the gate shift tab is quite a bit beefier than it was originally.

cheers!