eBay: '67 911 V8

kstar · 12:44 AM

OK, I'm not one who would consider a V8 in a 911 totally blasphemous; I have seem some that are very well done. But the following example made me a bit quesy.

Judge for yourself:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10156&item=2431580329

Check out the seat covers. Also, I like the shiny (ArmorAll?) coating on the tire surfaces.

There's more . . . and I am sure the Pelican group can fully enjoy this speciman.

BR,

Kurt

toman · toman's Garage

hmmm, I can't say I hate the basic idea and look of the car, but this particular specimen could induce vomiting.

Bobboloo · Bobboloo's Garage

This is like watching Silence of the Lambs before going to bed. Thanks Kurt.

"Clairese, what did they do to the 911. Tell me Clairese"

Milu · 09-13-2003, 02:54 AM

I think it would make a fun car if it drove ok. It just needs some cosmetic deletions like the interior, the tail, the front hood etc etc.
The V8 I could live with if I had to.

Schuey · 09-13-2003, 03:38 PM

I'd but a 911 with a V8 if done right...that car looks like CRAP...plus they ruined an early car...always a "no, no" in my department...they should've dropped a V8 in a turbo bodied car...a Stroker 454 would do nicely...

Sonic dB · Sonic dB's Garage

That car has been on EBay forever....guess there are no takers for such a Gem.

Carrera Sled · 03:53 PM

Could the 915 transaxle take that kind of torque without grenading? I see the "HD" gears, put they're putting about 450+ ft.-lbs. thru a box made for a lot less torque.

Lukesportsman · 09-13-2003, 10:42 PM

If you follow V8 conversion, unlikely from most here, then this car would be no stranger. His company hosted a website for awhile and went into great detail of the conversion and the problems they had with it. They made many attempts to try and correct them with mixed results. They never seemed fully happy with the transmission conversion. So, for many of the people who have been interested in such lumps, this car's problems have been all too well exposed.

I would definitely like the lwb and flared bodies to convert better. I would also prefer a 934 front bumper with a more discrete hood. I'm also in the minority here, that I would even consider such a lump, yet unlikely this one :-)

MAS · MAS's Garage

One of the main things that makes the 911 flat 6 such a good engine, is its very low center of gravity (aside from being fairly light for its power output). Installing a V8, no matter how well you try, is surely going to raise the car's center of gravity. Now, I'm not saying that good V8 911 would necessarily be a disaster, but surely, surely it would lose something by having its center of gravity raised?

-MAS

juan ruiz · juan ruiz's Garage

Which makes me wonder, I read and hear a lot about this conversions but does anyone knows who has the must hp in one of this v8 in a 911?

just curious.....................

DonDavis · DonDavis's Garage

And those La-Z-Boy recliners really add a touch of class.

lateapex911 · 09-14-2003, 01:02 PM

Well, he was smart enough to make it a private aution, so people can bid in secrecy!

Two words for this project: Bad idea.

Benson · 02:44 PM

I like the Chevy 350. Pound for pound you can get really good HP and torque out of it. It is used for Trucks, passenger Cars, Sports Cars, Yachts, Jet Boats, Tournament boats and in conversions. A Jaguar with a 350 SBC and 350 TH Tranny conversion is a great combination . I never saw any other engine in the small block (SBC) class that has been used in so many applications. It is the only one that I ever saw used to power a Jucuzzi or Panther jet which requires maximum torque. The 350 is worthy of its due but, probably is not the best application in the 911 Porsche. MAS makes a good point about the center of gravity. It would be a set back in competative racing.
I would like to know what happens from the crank to the 915 transaxel. Can it really work?

I would not mind having a 350 SBC 911.
But again, over all the PORSCHE 911 is on the top!!

Benson

Carrera Sled · 05:21 PM

The small-block Chevy V8 has won more races than any other engine in history. It's a beautiful mill. Coming up on its 50th year and still going strong. I need one again (new GTO? - aluminum 5.7L, 350 HP/365 ft. lb., 6 speed, independent rear wheel drive

).

dd74 · 09-14-2003, 03:55 PM

On a pure performance level (straight line most likely, and hopefully if the tranny holds up), I bet this car would destroy most anything on this board.

kstar · 09-14-2003, 05:18 PM

I think a very clean middle year 911 with a tired 2.7 would be a great candidate for a SBC 350 conversion - for street use!

This eBay car is sad for even the V8 Porsche enthusiasts, IMHO . . . at least cosmetically!

BR,

Kurt

Pete Pranger · 09-14-2003, 05:45 PM

I just took a few rough measurements and it looks like the centerline of the flat-six (and therefore the CG) is maybe 2 inches lower than on the v8. Depending on the configuration (aluminum heads, intake, etc.) the cg of a sbc is right around the camshaft centerline, not the crank. At least that's where my engine spins the best when mounted on an engine stand.

I am not a physicist, but I think the 1-2 inches would be negligible in all but the hardest driving. If I drop my car an inch in the rear, it might even be identical. I will have to wait a little longer to see........

As far as the car in question, it's an embarassment to those of us trying to do this "correctly" (as the purists storm out of the room...). 2 water pumps????? Ducts in the HOOD?????????? I'm not even going to comment on that "thing" in the backseat. Considering the level of "craftsmanship", I have no doubt my truck could outrun it. I'm ashamed for him.

BTW, I am planning on running a 930 trans behind (in front of?) my motor, I wouldn't risk a 915. I'm looking for 475ish HP but I did some checking and a couple of turbos will fit in there very nicely

.

Pete

lateapex911 · 09-14-2003, 06:10 PM

Interesting. Only 2"? I would have guessed more, but it would have been a guess.

How much longer (if any) is a dressed 350? And what is the all up dressed weight? (intake, carb or injection, exhaust, etc) Or how much more weight for the 350? My thinking is that I wouldn't want any more weight back there than what I had to have, much less higher, and further back, where the arm moment magnifies each pound.

But maybe the real numbers aren't that bad. Or you can go aluminum...

Carrera Sled · 09-14-2003, 06:19 PM

How about a blown 350 in a 914

! Looks like it's in the UK. http://www.v8914.com/

H20911 · 09-14-2003, 06:25 PM

the 930 trans and a v8 are a great combination. The 915 is really not strong enough to bolster any confidence in my book so I took mine out (nice spare). I also could not stand having to shift the 915 box so much (1st gear was useless because you are in it so short a time)

They (the conversion companies) will tell you that if you change the R+P you can have much longer gears but the trans is still week. They also will tell you to build a high strung 350 or 327. the reason is because if you build a 383 or larger you will break the the trans due to the higher torque.

Right now I am running a 377 (400 with 350 crank). I want to step up to a Motown 427 or 433 (more through you back in the seat type torque) but I will have to up grade the radiator again. but 550hp and 575 lbs/ft would be nice. I also wonder about the small stub axle bolts and if the get loose.

I think in about a year, when I am 40 I am going to start looking for a nice 993 cab that I will keep stock. Man ......I must be getting old.

Yep I Know the car too and the owner has more money in it then most of the cars on this board. Yes he did get sold a bill of goods.

s