Porsches are cheap to fix...

[nostatic]

by comparison. Got my wife's A8 back from the dealership today. It was still under the CPO warranty and had a whine. They replaced the power steering pump and the transmission. Money out of pocket for us: $94. Total bill to Audi USA: Just north of $15K.

Makes our cars a bargain...

[Doug Zielke]

Thanks for sharing, Todd.
Glad my wife bought another Toyota as her daily driver.

[Jeremy Cottrell]

Amen. VW's and Porsches are the only cars I can afford to drive. I friend just had a power steering hose changed on his Lexus for about $1500. That even makes a 944 cheap to fix.

[ischmitz]

Go ahead and order a replacement transmission from Porsche and let me know what you think after that...... You might be surprised.

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by nostatic
by comparison. Got my wife's A8 back from the dealership today. It was still under the CPO warranty and had a whine. They replaced the power steering pump and the transmission. Money out of pocket for us: $94. Total bill to Audi USA: Just north of $15K.

Makes our cars a bargain...

You complainin? Or braggin?

[ZAMIRZ]

that's not even a fair comparison. what year is your wife's audi? Compare it to the same year 911 and I'm pretty sure your results will differ.

[Adam]

Is that an A8 Quattro transmission??

Make sure that car isn't in your driveway when the warranty expires!

[jazzbass]

Originally posted by Jeremy Cottrell
Amen. VW's and Porsches are the only cars I can afford to drive. I friend just had a power steering hose changed on his Lexus for about $1500. That even makes a 944 cheap to fix.

For $1500 you don't fix a 944, you just buy another one*.


* Does not apply to S, S2, Cab or 951 models. Void where prohibited.

[nostatic]

not complaining at all. And yes, it will be out of our garage before the warranty expires. But it does have a brand new quattro tranny, and the warranty is good for another few months. It'll go up for sale soon in an online ad near you.

I'm sure that a replacement transmission from Porsche would be ridiculous money, but you can rebuild one for $2K or so. Does anyone rebuild an Audi tranny?

[Tyson Schmidt]

Originally posted by ischmitz
Go ahead and order a replacement transmission from Porsche and let me know what you think after that...... You might be surprised.

But the point is, the Porsche wouldn't need the transmission replaced.

[nostatic]

so are other new cars as expensive to fix? I know the A8 is a complicated beast, but aren't even Hondas and Toyotas becoming complex cars that cost big bucks to fix? Our '96 4-runner has been rather trouble free, but it is a 4-cylinder manual transmision car with no power windows, etc.

[ischmitz]

Originally posted by Tyson Schmidt
But the point is, the Porsche wouldn't need the transmission replaced.

T, I am not gonna to respond to that until you get your paint job fixed. Porscha's need that from time to time

[maxnine11]

just for curiousity, i looked up the price for a new 993 trans with limited slip diff. ...approx. $8500. (that is probably with your core return)
max

[GSpreeman]

The fiance's car needed some minor stuff. It's an A4 Quatro and the price tag was a little over $3K.

BTW, careful with that car Todd. The Audis are idiot simple to steal. Their alarms are nothing to knock out. For example, twist a screwdriver in the keylock and the alarm will dissarm and all the windows will roll down. If you're wondering how I know refer to paragraph #1.

[turbo6bar]

Another way to look at it: I can replace the tranny in the 911SC without a lot of trouble. Can one replace the tranny in a newer car without a magic wand? Serviceability is definitely on the side of the Porsche. There are few cars better for a DIYer. Are '78 Audis easy and cheap to repair? Are there any '78 Audis still on the road??? We can compare all we want, but you'll never get an apples to apples comparison. As long as I think I'm on the better end, I'm happy. Do you really think I should lose my bias towards Porsche?

Jürgen

[RickM]

Quote Nostatic: "Does anyone rebuild an Audi tranny?"

Let me know if you need THE man for the job.


Wonder what a 996 with Tip would cost to replace.

[ChrisBennet]

The new Audis are great cars especially as they get older - if you own a garage that services Audis that is. I have a friend whos does, he loves Audis.
I don't think people bother to rebuild the engines and transmissions on the water cooled Porsches. They're so cheap to replace.
-Chris

[Superman]

One of my favorite cars was the '79 Audi Fox I had. Most comfortable leather seats I have ever experienced. Engine was the same 4-cylinder SOHC that came in VW Rabbits, and the Fox was front wheel drive, but the engine was not transverse mounted. In addition to comfort and driveability, and ease of maintenance, and availability of parts, this car WOULD NOT DIE. I can recall draining about 1.5 quarts of mud from the crankcase at one oil change. Shame on me, but the car would not die. I finally drove it to the junkyard after it sat for 3 years. Started right up.

[nostatic]

But would it be the sam story with a '97 Audi? I think the issue is that while cars are getting "better", they are also becoming harder and more expensive to fix, and end up in the disposable category. I think I now understand why people do leases...I never considered them, but I'm not sure that newer "used" cars will ever be like my '85 Toyota pickup...

[Neilk]

With all the electronics in a car today, I don't think many cars from this era will be collectible for the DIYer. People with lots of disposable income will be able to afford replacing expen$$$ive computers and electric motors/servos, but that's about it. Didn't the pre 2003 Mercedes SL have over 100 little servos? Imagine having to track a short on that car in 20 years.