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914timo 10-13-2003 05:58 AM

996 front calipers
 
I would like to have some info about 996 front calipers. Do they have big reds ??

Bill Verburg´s excelent brake pages dont list 996 calipers. I suppose 996 calipers are not THE big reds, but are they same as in some other late model 911 ??

:confused:

s_wilwerding 10-13-2003 06:28 AM

I do know that 996 calipers/rotors have to have 17" wheels - you can't get 16" wheels on over them. Have you considered Boxster calipers? They're not quite as big as 996 calipers, but I would say that they have about 90% of the stopping force.

SRISER 10-13-2003 06:33 AM

Do Boxter calipers fit 97-89 Carrera's? How and what kind of mods do you have to do to get them to fit?

s_wilwerding 10-13-2003 06:52 AM

I don't know if they fit, it's just that I think you'd have an easier time fitting Boxster brakes than 996 brakes.

I do, however, recall someone on the Board fitting Boxster brakes to an SC, so I'm sure it can be done on the late model 3.2s. Try a search for "Boxster calipers".

EDIT: Here's a good thread.

Bill Verburg 10-13-2003 12:35 PM

here are some 996 specs
front pistons 40/36
rear pistons 30/28

total pad area 450cm<sup>2</sup>

front pad area 254cm<sup>2</sup>
rear pad area 196cm<sup>2</sup>
front pad thickness 12mm
rear pad thickness 10.5mm
front rotor 318x28mm
rear rotor 299x24mm
the same setup is used on Boxster S

The 318mm rotor will require a 17" wheel, if a smaller rotor is used then 16" rims cam be used

Superman 10-13-2003 12:39 PM

I know that Boxster brakes are getting popular because of their price. I think all four calipers can be had for well under $1k. Fordahl Motorsports is working on a conversion kit, since they are getting so popular with the 914 crowd.

Bill Verburg 10-13-2003 12:57 PM

The normal Boxster front calipers are popular upgrades because they fit in 15" wheels and use the 24mm Carrera front rotor and stock Carrera rears w/o a p/v.

This upgrade is only a marginal improvement on Carrera brakes.

SRISER 10-13-2003 06:09 PM

I guess my next dumb question is are they a bolt on item or do they need to be modified to fit a 87-89 Carrera?

914timo 10-13-2003 10:16 PM

Bill Verburg, many thanks. SmileWavy

914timo 10-13-2003 10:39 PM

Could somebody show me pics about 996 calipers ??

Have anybody installed them in SC or early 911 ??

nestorjw 10-13-2003 11:58 PM

I have a full set of 996 big reds and a front set of boxter calipers for sale! Let me know if you are interested. www.wold.com/porsche

914timo 10-14-2003 02:29 AM

Thanks Jeff, but I will try to find them a little closer to me, first from Europe. :D

Your 996 calipers are red, right ?? I have thought they are all silver. This is why I would like to see pics about them. Is there any other differences between the red and silver ones than color ?? :confused:

Toga82sc 10-14-2003 03:34 AM

Boxster brakes on an SC
 
I put a full set of boxster calibers and carrera cross-drilled rotors on my 82 SC. As Bill said, the braking is only slightly improved. My cost:
4 Boxster calipers and rotors: $550.00 (Ebay)
4 Cross-drilled rotors: $300.00
Pads all-round: $125.00
Caliper adapters from TRE motorsports: $400.00
Sold Boxster rotors: $150.00

Net cost is about: $1275

Oh forgot $30 for red caliper paint and $5 for Porche stencils

Toga82sc

Glasgow 911SC 10-14-2003 04:28 AM

Quote:

I guess my next dumb question is are they a bolt on item or do they need to be modified
They need a set of adapter brackets to fit the strut of earlier cars.

Bill Verburg 10-14-2003 01:45 PM

The biggest issue w/ any of these upgrades is rotors

The 996 front calipers(aks Boxster front) will want a 28mm thick rotor. It is possible to do as Chris Streit has done on his race car(sourced by VCI). But it is not common.

The Boxster kits are used w/ the 24mm Carrera rotors

The best choices are the 32mm 930 or 993tt rotors which need a different set of calipers(thought many of the smaller ones can be made to work on them) and wheels(usually).

914timo 10-14-2003 09:59 PM

I am still wondering what is the difference between black, silver and red 966 calipers? Are there any other differences than color.

I have a possibility to choice black or silver. :confused:

Jeroen 10-15-2003 03:46 AM

Hey Timo,

What are you aiming for? Are these for your 914?

cheers,

Jeroen

914timo 10-15-2003 05:39 AM

Quote:

What are you aiming for? Are these for your 914?
Well....... we´ll see..... maybe. :rolleyes:


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