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GenX Porsche 12-13-2003 02:05 PM

Spark Plug #1
 
So i have wasted 2 nights trying to get my spark plug out of cylinder number 1. I have replaced spark plugs before and I have my system down...I have 2 short extensions and then just a normal spark plug removing socket (with rubber insert). So here's the problem. My socket and spark plug are stuck in my engine. I think there isnt enough clearance to get the spark plug removing socket out with the spark plug inside it. What I really think is causing the problem is that I got a new socket and it doesnt allow the spark plug to seat far enough into the socket so now the whole assembly is stuck in my engine. I can wiggle it around and stuff but it just does want to come out. The entension pulls right out of the socket when I try and put any pressure on it. Conseqently I screwed the spark plug back in and tried to get just the socket out and the rubber is to new and grips to much and I cant remove just the socket. Please help me I am so frustrated. I have already done the rest of my car and I have been battling with this one. I live in Santa Cruz and if anyone is in the area and looking for something to do this weekend and would like to stop by please call me 831-588-6010. Hope you guys can help me out...you always have in the past.

PS My one idea is take a shot of WD40 into the center of the socket and try and get it on the rubber without getting it in the socket itself...I am I just stupid....dont answer that...I am already feeling pretty stupid.

David

vash 12-13-2003 02:29 PM

i gave this dude a call already, problem solved.

the trick is two 3" LOCKING extensions from sears.

power 12-13-2003 02:52 PM

Try and find a Porsche factory spark plug tool, they work the best. I was always frustrated by extensions ect... until I bought the proper tool.

makaio 12-13-2003 04:38 PM

What Power said. The factory tool rocks.

But glad the problem is solved.

greglepore 12-13-2003 04:47 PM

Yes to the factory tool, or if you don't have one, Harbor Freight has a flex extention with a spring over it that is very similar to the factory piece.

Oldporsche 12-13-2003 05:24 PM

I use locking extensions.

Anyone that has worked on these things has been in the same boat as you have.

If you are going to use a spark plug socket find some way to lock it to the extension.

The locking extensions can be inserted into the socket while its still on the plug and caught down in that spark plug well.

Good luck,
David Duffield

Doug E 12-13-2003 06:57 PM

One other trick someone once taught me was to wrap tape (racers, duct, etc..) around any connection points on the sockets/extensions just so there is no chance anything gets left down there.

GenX Porsche 12-14-2003 03:49 PM

So now I have unscrewed the situation but my spark plug is still in my engine. Please help...I cant find any socket thats going to get good grip on that spark plug. I have done the rest of the car and its #1 thats causing problems. Anyone around Santa Cruz willing to give me a hand and let me borrow your spark plug removal tool? Give me a call. Thanks alot.
David

911pcars 12-14-2003 04:15 PM

6 point, 13/16" deep socket. At this point, you may not be concerned with breaking the ceramic, thus no rubber insert needed.

Sherwood
http://members.rennlist.org/911pcars

greglepore 12-14-2003 04:15 PM

Relax, we've all been there. First, the car will run as is, if need be. What you need uis the factory tool or the Harbor Freight tool, and if no one nearby has one, run it with one old plug until you get the tool you need.

911's are deep breath machines-when you get to the point I sense you're at, walk away, take a deep breath...

vash 12-14-2003 04:16 PM

i dont get it, is the old plug in the car or the new one?

Jim Sims 12-14-2003 04:16 PM

Is the rubber insert still in the sparkplug socket? If not, use a mirror and flashlight to look for it in the sparkplug hole. Extract the insert with bent nose needle nose pliers or a long flexible grapper tool (3 small claws actuated by pushing a button at the other end). Sears sells the grabber tool. If the sparkplug is loose the claws can extract the sparkplug by grabbing the top where the sparkplug wire connector attaches. Jim

AFJuvat 12-14-2003 04:21 PM

For those that do not have them, Porsche just re-released the sparkplug tool. Complete with wrench to turn the sparkplug tool.

$79.00

AFJuvat

toolman 12-14-2003 05:04 PM

If you use a spark plug socket, sometimes there is not enough clearance between the socket and the head and it gets wedged in there. Use just a standard 13/16 socket with a little masking tape inside to help retain the plug.

Oldporsche 12-14-2003 05:56 PM

I believe that the Snap-on spark plug socket has a magnetic insert in it instead of the foam robber insert or the rubber "o" ring found in some.

David Duffield

GenX Porsche 12-14-2003 06:07 PM

I got the previously stuck socket out of the engine and then removed the little rubber insert that was still on the spark plug. Now I am just trying to remove the current old spark plug and my standard spark plug socket is to large to work with the way cylinder #1 is angled, I believe there isnt enough clearance for the socket to fit in.

Paul Thomas 12-14-2003 07:48 PM

Take the valve cover off and unscrew it by hand.

no substitute 12-14-2003 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AFJuvat
For those that do not have them, Porsche just re-released the sparkplug tool. Complete with wrench to turn the sparkplug tool.

$79.00

AFJuvat

Would you happen to have a link? Thanks.

no substitute 12-14-2003 07:55 PM

I just discovered I have a Klein 21 with spring, swivel, and hex insert hole. Must have come out of the 914. This tool is good, but the solid one is better? TIA.

GenX Porsche 12-16-2003 09:46 AM

I am looking at picking up a tool that will solve my cursed spark plugs and I was wondering which one I should get of these two. Or will both do the job.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43994&item=2448957 107

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42606&item=2449108 901

Thanks again.
David


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