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Schrup 12-19-2003 09:53 AM

Corey, what size wheels do you have? I have 15". I am in the process of redoing my suspension & want to lower my car as well, but I doubt I will be able to get the same look as Randy without raising my spindles & monoball bump steer kit. I'm not willing to part with my 15" wheels because I like the gearing. Good luck.

Harlan Chinn 12-19-2003 10:02 AM

Randy, I have had my work done by Byron and though they are good are pretty $$$ I know it is best to balance tires/wheels with weights on both sides on Byron's insistence but they weren't going to do that with my newly polished wheels. They do know their stuff. Stop by G2 in Interbay sometime, Chris and Joe there are great guys to work with.
They just mounted and balanced my 7 and 9's. They'll sometimes let you drive their sports car while your car is on the rack.

corey79sc 12-20-2003 05:55 PM

shrup, my fronts are 205/55r16 and the backs are 225/50r16 so mine are 16s sorry it took so long to get back to you
corey

dickster 12-28-2003 06:31 AM

corey,

heres how you lower the front.

jack up front.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072625400.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072625427.jpg

remove cover - this will expose the fuel pump, and steering rack.

two 17mm nuts, and two 8mm allen bolts.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072625464.jpg

dickster 12-28-2003 06:35 AM

remove ride height adjust screws completely (if you are removing t bar you will need to push roll bar out of the way for clearance)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072625623.jpg

then end caps will slide off t bars.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072625659.jpg

leaves you with t bar exposed - i swapped mine at this point. here i have the jack under the wish bone to lift the wheel before i put on the end cap.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072625714.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072625733.jpg

once you have removed end caps jack up lower wishbone to raise the wheels (one at a time). i then sighted along from the front of the car and aligned the centre of the wheel with the line along the bottom of the door - that achieved a height of around 24" with 22mm bars.

then replace end caps on bars leaving ample adjustment up and down. replace screws. lower wishbone off jack.

and thats it. repeat until you get desired height, and then replace roll bar mounts and cover sheet metal (it will help get this bolted up if you use a jack to lift roll bar (one end) slightly).

good luck.

onewhippedpuppy 12-28-2003 06:45 AM

Corey, make sure you have at least $200-$300 to spare before you tear into this, you'll want an alignment and corner balance as soon as you're done, otherwise you'll be asking us about new tires. Get 101 projects, it covers lowering, as well as 100 other things to get you into trouble and take away your money.

dickster 12-28-2003 06:46 AM

the result. slightly lower than i wanted at 23.25" and 24". i'm gonna see how much adjustment i have in the rear tomorrow and try and get near 24" in the rear.

that is of course true about the alignment. any changes you make to ride height will affect the settings.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072626339.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072626382.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1072626395.jpg

corey79sc 12-29-2003 02:08 PM

wow that looks good. i am going to go get the book tonight. your cer is real nice.

Por_sha911 12-29-2003 02:46 PM

Corey: just remember "opps" is very expensive. Don't jump into things without knowing what you are doing.

corey79sc 12-29-2003 05:49 PM

well dickster, i have my book i have been reading it here and there but i do need one thing. in the book it said to let the A-arms to hang as far down as possible. (for stock ride) now you tell me from the bottem of the door. ok i get lost here
the rest i get
thanx

jyl 12-29-2003 05:55 PM

Dickster, what color is your car? Some sort of green-black? It looks gorgeous. Especially without the rockers.

cstreit 12-29-2003 08:39 PM

Just to contribute to this thread, we've been having a rather spirited and interesting discussion on roll centers, related to this topic on the racing board.

Thought this might also be of interest to some of you!



Cheers and goodnight!


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-autocross-track-racing/141194-raising-bilstein-spindles.html

Mark Wilson 12-29-2003 09:29 PM

impending disaster

dickster 12-30-2003 12:40 AM

corey,

its guess work as to what position you have the A arms in before replacing the end cap. i fitted 22mm bars, and used the door bottom as a guide. fit end cap in middle of adjustment range.

it worked for me and i now have the 24.5" ride height that i wanted.

jyl,

thanks. its moss green - it can look almost black in some light. the rockerless look is growing on me.

Glasgow 911SC 12-30-2003 06:13 AM

If you leave the A-arm at it's lowest point you will get monster truck ride height. That bit wasn't too clear in the book. I jacked the wheel up to approximately the height I wanted it to be (compared to the fender top) and used the adjustment screw to even it up.

corey79sc 12-30-2003 10:47 AM

ok thanx, i see now. i was a little lost. next for a guy that does not do any racing at all, and just get my car out on nice days. do i need to go to the 22mm bars. i do not want it to bottom out
thanx
p.s. dickster did you have to role your fenders?

corey79sc 12-30-2003 03:33 PM

well well well,i am sitting at 24 1/8" on both sides with me in it and with me out the right side is 241/8 and left is 243/8. dickster thanx a lot it was so easy to do it took me and a friend about 2.5 hours to do. and for all you great(Prezidential Member) that think it is bad to do i will have so pic's for you later.
thanx to all the back is next

corey79sc 12-30-2003 06:02 PM

here is my website the pic's are on!!!!!!!!

www.cardomain.com/id/corey79sc

corey79sc 01-01-2004 05:38 PM

so dickster what do you think??????????

Por_sha911 01-01-2004 05:48 PM

Corey, have you road tested the car to make sure you have clearance in turns and over bumps?


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