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curlesw 01-10-2004 01:14 PM

First time spark plug change
 
I just finished my first spark plug change…seems to have gone well. I also changed the wires and distributor cap and rotor. I was a little discouraged at first as the plugs on the right side are a pain to get out…should have started on the left side. I did not have the Porsche tool but used a swivel socket as outlined in the 101 Book. I think next time I will buy the tool and give it a try.

Below is a picture of the plugs…not sure if anyone can give me any feedback on the condition. The car ran great beforehand but I’m not sure how long they were in the car…they have at least 18,000 miles on them. The car currently has 102,000 miles.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1073772771.jpg

V/r
Wayne C.
83 SC SmileWavy

curlesw 01-10-2004 01:49 PM

Also, one other question. The old plug wires (original) had an extra wire coming from the distributor and was grounded next to the coil The new wires, Magnecor, did not require...how come? TIA SmileWavy

Wayne C.
83 SC

Por_sha911 01-10-2004 01:59 PM

Pardon the hijack but what is "the tool" you use to get the plugs out?

stealthn 01-10-2004 02:02 PM

Wayne,

What plugs are they? They look a little white, could be fine or could be running too hot (incorrect plugs), and/or too lean. Just my two cents (CDN) as far as original wires if you are talking about the braided ones, these had ground wires on them.

curlesw 01-10-2004 02:04 PM

13/16 swivel spark plug socket, it has a rubber inset to hold the plug. Do not use just a standard 13/16 socket as the plug will fall out and it's a pain to get the spark plug out. The tool is $10 at Sears. You will also need a 3" extension. However, as noted, I'd try the Porsche tool referred to in other posts...others make it sound much easier.

Wayne C.
83 SC

curlesw 01-10-2004 02:11 PM

Quote:

Wayne,

What plugs are they? They look a little white, could be fine or could be running too hot (incorrect plugs), and/or too lean. Just my two cents (CDN) as far as original wires if you are talking about the braided ones, these had ground wires on them.
Thanks Bob. The old plugs are the same as the new ones Pelican sent me, Bosch Super. The grounds surprised me...just have never seen that before on any of my other cars.

v/r
Wayne C.

SpeedracerIndy 01-10-2004 02:31 PM

The ground straps were added by Porsche because they thought that it would prevent air boxes from cracking. At least that's what I have heard. Since the plug wires don't cause intake backfires, and don't cause the air box to crack, you don't need plug wires with ground straps. I also have magnecor wires and am happy with them. See below :)

http://www.pelicanparts.com/pmpre/im...10-03__100.JPG

xlr8 01-10-2004 02:46 PM

Spark plug tool from Porsche tool kit.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1073778310.jpg

cegerer 01-10-2004 02:57 PM

That Porsche plug wrench makes the job extremely easy. What a simple, well-designed tool!

3.2 CAB 01-10-2004 03:57 PM

Sorry to borrow the thread, but speaking about tools, what is the tool that looks sort of like a big eye-bolt?

SpeedracerIndy 01-10-2004 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 3.2 CAB
Sorry to borrow the thread, but speaking about tools, what is the tool that looks sort of like a big eye-bolt?
I believe it is a tow hook. There's a place to insert it in the front bumper. Someone will have a picture to demonstrate soon no doubt.

ruf-porsche 01-10-2004 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDiercks
I believe it is a tow hook. There's a place to insert it in the front bumper. Someone will have a picture to demonstrate soon no doubt.
Actually its for the rear bumper. The front has a tow hook under the pan, but for the rear, on the left side bumper there is a plug, you remove the plug and insert the tow hook.

The Porsche tool is great, but I prefer a 3/8" air rachet, it spins the plug out quickly and you can set it so that it will stop once it hit a pre-determine torque while spinning the plugs in.

3.2 CAB 01-10-2004 04:25 PM

Good to know that, will look for the plug, never noticed one. Thanks.

ruf-porsche 01-10-2004 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDiercks
I also have magnecor wires and am happy with them. See below :)

http://www.pelicanparts.com/pmpre/im...10-03__100.JPG

Did you back date the heater or did the Euro cars come with the non blower system?

Silveresrty911S 01-10-2004 06:37 PM

Ya they look a little whitish, too hot a plug or too lean of fuel mixture. Wayne, if possible get the original plug tool and check them out after a thousand or two, that tool really makes removal easy.

Rick

curlesw 01-10-2004 07:09 PM

Quote:

Silveresrty911S Ya they look a little whitish, too hot a plug or too lean of fuel mixture. Wayne, if possible get the original plug tool and check them out after a thousand or two, that tool really makes removal easy.

Rick
Thanks Rick...that's a good suggestion, I'll make sure to do that. Also, took a look at your Pelican page...nice car. I live on 15th hole at Eagle Crest (San Pasqual)...if you ever play and need a fourth lt me know.

Quote:

Did you back date the heater or did the Euro cars come with the non blower system?
I was wondering the same thing...looks much cleaner.

v/r
Wayne C.

SpeedracerIndy 01-10-2004 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ruf-porsche
Did you back date the heater or did the Euro cars come with the non blower system?
The heater was backdated by the PO. I have since replaced the blower motor, but left the right side backdated. I like the clean look of the bay in that pic, but wanted a little heat while sitting at a stop light. With only the left side hooked up to the blower, you don't have the ugly hose going over the top of the fan schroud. I felt that was a good compromise. I need to get a new picture of my new "half backdated" look, but it's just too damn cold out.

ubiquity0 01-10-2004 09:09 PM

Definitely try to get the Porsche spark plug tool. Its perfect for the job. WIth this thing you can whip all 6 plugs out & out new ones in in ~15mins.

gerard vaglio 01-10-2004 09:59 PM

CDiercks,

Your going to like the Porsche spark plug tool, it makes what you just did so much easier you won't believe it. You'll be changing plugs every week.

Your plugs do look just a little whitish but not bad.

I'm interested in backdating the heat on my 79sc, would you be willing to sell
the left side heat duct that your no longer using?

Gerard

dickster 01-10-2004 11:28 PM

they look fine, just dont leave 'em so long between changes. 10-12k miles is enough for plugs.


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