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SGB 02-04-2004 07:11 PM

Too cool!
Thanks for letting me in. I gotta gowmload a few cheats so i have the required cars. And I don't know why my car was so slow tonight. I'm not Schumcher, but i started - ran off while everyone else was stationary- then suddenly (server update) I'm 30 seconds behind and being left like I am standing still. I gotta figure that out. Hope you are racing again soon. I'll get my IP addy and try to host too if needed.

masraum 02-04-2004 08:54 PM

Well, Pari and Leland and I have had a blast. We've been racing for a couple of hours. I will continue to look around and see if I can determine what's wrong and why we can't get more than a few people on any one server.

Scott from the 914 board got on for a bit tonight. He had some technical difficulties, but we appreciated him coming.

Par911 02-04-2004 08:55 PM

Well it was the Red Group again, me Leland, and Steve played on Steves IP. We had a nice GT1 tournament, that sometimes resembled a demolition derby. There has to be some way that we can get some more people in Steve's IP, Derek and KJB try to log on with us tomorrow.

masraum 02-04-2004 08:59 PM

I have a spare PC maybe I can set it up just for this, maybe a dedicated pc will help. I may not have it ready for tomorrow, but I might.

masraum 02-04-2004 09:01 PM

OK, what we seem to have learned from Derek is that the guys with the 169.254.x.x addresses need to go to www.whatismyip.com, find out how they look on the internet and then publish that address.

We can get this licked I know we can.

Par911 02-04-2004 09:04 PM

Steve, the comma at the end of the link screwed it up. Try this:
www.whatismyip.com

masraum 02-04-2004 09:25 PM

Oops, sorry

Here's some general NFS info

To use the username cheat codes, goto the main menu and click "Create Player" and type in the cheat for the name. Click "Done" (you'll hear a little confirmation sound). Then choose your regular profile and play the game!


Username Cheats
Gulliver - Porsches change into Radio Controlled cars
Smash Up - Destruction Derby style racing
Dakar - Drive with Rally physics
fuzzyfuz - Enables cops in quick race, but cops may not appear on all tracks
yraGyraG - Enables all cars to have 993 physics
fetherw8 - Heavier cars


Miscellaneous Cheats
All Cars & Tracks
Enter multi-player mode and select the "Peer To Peer" option, but choose to race alone. You will be able to select any car on any track.
Infinite Money
Purchase a used car and choose an "Overall" repair. When completed, the value of your car will be higher than the purchase price and the cost of the repairs. Sell the car, purchase another used car and repeat as needed.

masraum 02-04-2004 09:33 PM

This may also help things a bit

found on the net

As mentioned, peer to peer IP races can be found using a utility called
NCOPS. It can be downloaded at
http://ncops.racerplanet.com/
Its purpose is to display IP's of people hosting NFS 4 & 5 races. (I just
checked, two races currently being hosted)

You can also look at
http://www.racerplanet.com/forum/
for information on the porsche racing online league and more fans of the
game.

masraum 02-04-2004 09:40 PM

The little utility seems to work for listing games. It won't work for you guys that show one ip address in the game, but another on the internet, because it picks your natural IP

If anyone is at all curious about what is going on with the people who seem to have 2 different ip addresses this link will tell you.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/nat.htm

If you have a router at your house it is almost certainly doing NAT, and apparently some isps are doing it too.

Par911 02-04-2004 09:44 PM

Steve that is a great link, i downloaded V.10 and hit launch and it worked. I didn't see anyone else hosting though.

masraum 02-04-2004 09:58 PM

Yep, I listed for a sec to see how it worked, but other than that research I'm done for the night, wow, maryland, it's even later where you are. Night all, we'll try again tomorrow.

Glasgow 911SC 02-05-2004 04:49 AM

So AOL must be NATing me? I guess that means I can only get a game going if we can find a server that hosts the game like the battlefield 1942 ones I play on.

Only once did it seem like something was happening when it said that the person I was trying to join was using a different version.

osidak 02-05-2004 05:01 AM

The different version guy was me. Still trying to figure out if my update took.

Loads of fun last night and plan on being back tonight. To get it to work I had to bypass my router and even then I could not attach to other people. I kept getting a Connection lost message.

I hosted and I was able to pick up three people and we had a pretty good connection i think.

So to that end what ports do I need to open to leave my router in place (I opened 9400) and also what am I doing wrong that prevents me from attaching to others. I don't mind hosting but I felt bad when I had to dump everyone to call it a night.

HELP!!!!!!

Glasgow 911SC 02-05-2004 05:06 AM

I know sooo little about this. I don't even know if I have a router? Don't think I do, just an AOL USB broadband modem.

osidak 02-05-2004 05:06 AM

second question - what kind of ping times are people seeing. I wonder if some of the problems are due to high ping times. I was seeing a max of 200 and mostly in the low 100's for the people that connected to me.

masraum 02-05-2004 06:44 AM

OK, I saw in my firewall logs packets on UDP and TCP 9400, but according to a bunch of stuff that I found on the internet last night it is 9440 and/or 9442 UDP. Apparently the game will do UDP or TCP, but because it is connectionless prefers UDP. Looking at my current logs I'd say 9442 is the number to go by and I have a pretty even distribution of TCP & UDP.

So 9442 TCP and UDP seem to be the key. If you've got the capability might as well do 9400 too. I wonder if that is part of the difference between some people connecting and some not, some versions use a different port. Hmmm

Chris/Glasgow, if you have a modem then you probably don't have a router, but some modems these days perform some router like functions, so I can't say for sure.

What SHOULD be happening is that if you are going through NAT you probably shouldn't be able to host a game, but you should be able to join one.

I also found several things on the internet in several different places that said that if you delete/rename the gimmee.dll that you may not be able to take part in online games, but it seems to be a "some work, some don't" type of thing. I think it seems to be very very touchy on delay or something.

Leland and I seem to get pings of 110-160 between us, but Pari because he's on dialup averages 260-360 with occasional numbers all over the map.

I did a test last night, and apparently SBC has bumped my upload speed up a bit to about 200K from what used to be 128K, so that should help hosted games.

Hopefully we'll keep getting better at this.

DR Ryan, man this really sucks, hopefully we'll get something working for you, sorry man!

PS I THINK that when you load the game it might display the version at the top or bottom of one of the opening screens, but I can't check right now.

See you tonight.

kjb 02-05-2004 07:38 AM

Steve,

My router logs only showed traffic at port 9442 while I was connected to Osidak's game. I was never able to connect to your game.

/ J

masraum 02-05-2004 07:48 AM

I just disabled my firewall when I was hosting or trying to connect, but it continues to log packets.

I think 9442 should do the trick.

kjb 02-05-2004 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by surflvr911sc

To check the Version: Open the NFS PU folder, right click on Porsche.exe, and click properties. The v3.5 is a little over 1mb, the old version is ???kb, so if it's over a MB it's good to go.

my patch obviously didn't take since the executable is 244 kB. Can someone e-mail me the patch at kjb@[remove this]kth.se?

This might explain why we all couldn't connect last night. The people on Osidak's server are probably all running pre-3.5 software (maybe without knowing it, like me).

/ J

adomakin 02-05-2004 08:26 AM

this game that you are all going on about: is a good simulation of driving a car? how does it compare with granturismo for the playstation (which is surely THE best driving sim)

masraum 02-05-2004 08:34 AM

Here's a link to the patch

http://ncops.racerplanet.com/?section=downloads

Glasgow 911SC 02-05-2004 08:41 AM

adomakin.
I'm not sure if the game is the most realistic drivers one out there (I've not played the other console ones) but the different cars do have different handling characteristics and can take time to get used to.

and.....i got it for under a tenner so it can't be too bad.

osidak 02-05-2004 08:57 AM

I will have to check my version again. It is very possible I am pre 3.5 but I did overwrite my exe file with the patch that (forget the name) sent me.

I will also be opening up port 9442 tonight when I get home.

adomakin 02-05-2004 09:31 AM

glasgow, do yourself a favour and get a playstation2 and a copy of GranTurismo3, get into it, then wait with baited breath for GranTurismo4 (may 04) which is going to be online capable. honestly, the gt series of games is truely astonishing. (god i sound like the biggest nerd geek on the planet)

Par911 02-05-2004 09:34 AM

Quote:

this game that you are all going on about: is a good simulation of driving a car? how does it compare with granturismo for the playstation (which is surely THE best driving sim)
UMMMM because it's all PORSCHE, and it's a computer game that you can go online with and race fellow Pelicans. Can't really beat that IMO. It is a very realistic game, just try handling the tail happy RS.:D

adomakin 02-05-2004 09:48 AM

gt3 has got the ruf ctr's........they are pretty tail happy, especially if you win enough dough to upgrade them to 800hp! and gt4 (may04) is gonna be online too.

smestas 02-05-2004 09:52 AM

I tried to connect to all the posted IPs last night with the version I have (v5.0) and had no luck. Most of them said connecting and then connection lost or host has a different version? So instead I practiced solo with the RS.

If Im able to connect tonight prepare for some damage!

masraum 02-05-2004 09:52 AM

adomakin, trust me, you haven't even begun to sound like "the biggest nerd geek on the planet". I work in a room with 100 other people 50% of which are much bigger geeks than that. Some would make your head spin.

The physics are great for an arcade style game, but can't touch the realistic games like GTR2002 or GPL.

kjb 02-05-2004 09:54 AM

GT3 is a great game too. NFS:PU is appealing because there are so many different porsches in it (at least 50 different models I'm guessing).

For the most realistic Porsche driving experience, I just take my car for a spin. :)

/ J

ubiquity0 02-05-2004 10:10 AM

Might try & get in on the action tonight, if anyones still going around 9pm pacific time.

Sports Car GT is a pretty realistic game w/ 993 GT1's 2's & 3's. Its pretty tough & racing is very tight. I'm not sure if you can do multiplayer though.

derek murray 02-05-2004 10:56 AM

KJB, for the time being you can download the update off my web server. make sure you unzip the files to the proper directories specified in the "read me first" file

http://www.scatliff.mb.ca/pelican/update_v35.zip

masraum 02-05-2004 02:38 PM

bump

kjb 02-05-2004 02:59 PM

I have the new patch installed, looking forward to some action tonight.

Eric Coffey was a pretty good driver last night. I had to resort to demolition derby tactics to have a chance at beating him.

/ J

Woody 02-05-2004 05:02 PM

GREAT CURE FOR FROST BITE
I'M GONNA SETUP MY STEERING WHEEL THIS WEEKEND
THEN WITH SOME PRACTICE I'M COMING LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS
YEA HAW
KEVIN:D

osidak 02-05-2004 05:29 PM

ok who is hosting and or playing

GrindingGears 02-05-2004 05:31 PM

I just bought the game today, SWEET!

Where can I find the patch (3.5)?

I have XP, is there anything else I need to do to join the Pelican multiplayer games?

EDIT: I see the patch link above. Is there anything else I need to do to join the multiplayer games?

osidak 02-05-2004 05:38 PM

ok my ip 166.82.68.2 Hope going to try and keep my router online tonight

GrindingGears 02-05-2004 05:49 PM

osidak are you hosting pre 3.5? or with 3.5?

Par911 02-05-2004 05:53 PM

Anyone trying to race? Steve, Lee, where you guys hiding at?

osidak 02-05-2004 05:56 PM

my exe file size is just over 2 meg so i assume 3.5


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