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'77 934.5

Thought some of you guys would enjoy these photos. This is a 1977 934/935. It has an extensive race history in IMSA, first appearing at Sebring in 1977. The car was originally owned and driven by Ted Fields (of Marshall Fields) and it was also driven by Danny Ongias. In 1978 it was purchased by Hal Shaw and converted to 935 specs.

Dave at TRE knows this car well. When the present owner was restoring the car back to 934 specs, from the 935 conversion, he found an original 934 front end of the car in Dave's shop.













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Here are more shots.









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Sweet! Thanks for the pictures.
Makes me wish that I owned a department store. I would so rather be driving than working right now.

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Man, that thing is bad arss! I wish my motor was that clean. Look at the return tubes!
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That is just sensational!
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where did you take these pics? does tom still own the car?
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Fantastic----just waiting for some knowledgable hero to label it 'rice' !
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I know that car. Hal and I raced together for many years. The car was damaged in a fire at an IMSA race when the fuel probe broke during a pit stop.
Hal later died in a road accident when he hit a loose horse in the middle of the night in South Park, CO (no lights, no people for miles). All the good racers die too young. We all miss him.

I’ll see if I can find some photographs.

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grady- i think we met YEARS ago at Phoenix International during a SCCA National. We had a light blue DP 911 and you were running your red/white 914-6. We had fuel problems all weekend (turned out to be fuel tank scaling crap into the pump which packed up) and you tried to help as much as possible. Hope all is well
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Good to be Ted Field. Inherit millions. Spend big bucks on racing. Make a couple hundred million more releasing rap records on his label Interscope.
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Dave,

Please e-mail me and lets re-connect. I think that race was in 1981 or so.

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Hi Dave,

Yes Tom still owns the car. I was at his shop over Dunkles weekend. As you know he has some other gems there as well. We looked at old photos over the weekend and he mentioned his connection to you and your brother. How did you come to have the front end of this car at your shop?

Grady,

You are correct it did catch fire during refueling and burn several crew members in the process. Tom bought the car after the fire. Actually there was not much damage to the car from the fire. From the photos it looked like fuel spilled over the left front fender and hit the hot brake rotor and ignited.

Wayne,

The owner of the car now, took a photo of the car as it came off the plane from the Porsche Factory to be delivered to Ted Fields just before the Sebring race in 1977. I saw the picture and it has been restored to look just like that photo. Very cool story.
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Tom, the owner, also has other memorabilia from where that car raced- he has quite the collection of car "stuff"
I bought the front spoiler at Vasek's yard sale some time before I gave it to Tom. I think it was off the Follmer 934. I had a 934 "look" 911 with a semi built 3.2 and figured i may need a spare (for the inevitable off road excursion)
Jim Torres and J. R. Borsos did the restoration on the car, but it did not need much. Hal kept his cars pretty nice.
Somewhere there is a picture of the car as Tom ran it at Willow, before the restoration. After a couple six packs and with an artistic girl friend present, the car was painted all camoflauged: It looked like a Panzer circulating willow springs at high speed!!
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What are the throttle body looking items on the top of the intake plenum?

Are these an overpressure relief valve? Are they an atmospheric intake for something?

There are a couple pictures of these in Bruce Anderson's book, I wonder what their function is.
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Did you notice that the waste-gate's exhaust pipe's diameter is larger then the exhaust pipes of most cars
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Those small valves were mechanically actuated. whenever you let off the gas pedal , they blew off excess boosted air to the atmosphere. the thinking was to reduce the "slam back " air into the turbo. The turbo would sometimes loosen up the pin wheel- probably happened a lot on the 917's! A lot of racers just wired these shut and replaced turbos more often
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Looks fantastic. Very period correct. I agree the stock 934 flairs would look better than the super wide 935 transition ones.
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Those small valves were mechanically actuated. whenever you let off the gas pedal , they blew off excess boosted air to the atmosphere. the thinking was to reduce the "slam back " air into the turbo. The turbo would sometimes loosen up the pin wheel- probably happened a lot on the 917's! A lot of racers just wired these shut and replaced turbos more often
Which valves? I believe you are mixing BOV's with wastegates....

Wastegayes are pneumatically acutated to route around excess exhaust gases away from turbo when dialed boost is reached. BOV's are there to releave exchess pressure that builds up when turbo trys to pump air into closed throttle. You can disconnect it but it really doesn't help anything ...

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