'74 with a 3.6 conversion...Price?

[rdane]

Clean looking car what do you think it is worth?

Here is a link for pictures. Nice 10 foot car. I heard a price of 50K!
I was thinking more like 20K. You?

http://www.speedwaremotorsports.com/vehicles/


1974 Porsche 911 Carrera (non-sunroof car)

23mm and 31mm torsion bars
Koni adjustable shocks
Plastic bushings
AJ-USA front and rear adjustable swaybars
Brembo Big Red front and rear brake kits w/stainless steel brake lines and Porterfield R4-S brake pads
Kinesis K-20 wheels 17x7.5 and 17x9 with painted black centers and clear-anodized outer rim-halves
BFG TA/KD 205/50/17 and 255/40/17 tires
1995 993 3.6 liter twin plug motor
Autothority performance chip
Lightened flywheel
Limited slip differential
Large front mount oil cooler
Front and rear Fiberglass IROC bumpers
Fiberglass Duck-tail deck-lid
Custom made RS-style carpet kit
RS-door panels
Recaro Trend seats in black leather with heat and electric movement
Racing Dynamics limited edition floor mats
Sparco steering wheel and shift knob
Pro-comp pedal kit
Speedware harness bar
Kenwood flip-face CD-player, Rockford Fosgate Amplifier and MBquart speakers

[Shuie]

$25k tops if its perfect. There was a well sorted 3.6 SC (car was white with Cup 1s on it) someone posted here about a month ago that sold for under $25k. Thats a nice car, but $50K is absurd. I'd believe that he had that much in it though.

[speeder]

Awfully nice car, but I have no idea what the market is paying for such a thing. It would cost a lot to duplicate, but at each price point they are competing w/ other, newer 911s. (993s, etc.).

[rdane]

Here is another and better at 6':
1983 Euro SC, no power, or sunroof, black
weight is 2300#

Body work:
Stoneguard 3M bra and car protection
RSAmerica OEM wing @ paint
C4 head lights, wiring relay installed & painted trim rings
Borsch fog lights
RUF FG bumpers

Engine and transmission:
'95 3.6 vario ram with 45K miles, chipped, dyno 265 at the wheels
B&B stainless front spoiler oil cooler
993 Webcam, performance grind
Club sport mounts on the engine and transmission
Close ratio on a rebuilt 915 (20K miles @ 10/1/03) with new gearing on 2 thru 5, 137mph @ 7K
Factory ZF limited slip, set @ 80%
Sachs Power Clutch
WEVO short shifter, coupler and gate
Optima RS battery


Brakes:
stainless steel brake lines
SCI 930 brakes
New 930 master cylinder
Ferodo FDB 451 pads
AJ USA brake air kit

Suspension:
Elephant Racing triangulated cross bar
22 front with 30 rear, Sander's hollow T bars
22 front and 21 rear stock OEM ‘86 Carrera sway bars
solid bushings
Bilstein sport shocks
new ball joints
Turbo Tie rods
Euro ride height @ 25.0” front, 24.25” rear
Corner balanced

Wheels and tires:
Fiske 8” and 9”, 10 spoke with SO3

Interior:
SafeCraft 5# Halon 1301 Fire system
RS door panels
Pole Position seats
RS style carpet set
Speedware seat mounts in black
Momo wheel
AJ USA billet peddle set
North Hollywood tach and speedo redials
New heater boxes
Alpine CDA 7875 AM/FM radio and CD player

asking price was 32K

My question is after all the time and expense why are people selling nice 3.6 project cars?

[MuffinMan]

The cars setup like this that I've seen have been in the $30ks asking, moving to the low $30ks or mid $20ks after negotiation. The second car you posted is in line with this pricing. Every car is different, but those are for well sorted cars with all the right stuff. If the car has only partial upgrades, such as a 3.6 but no suspension work, brake work, etc., then it's probably a low $20ks car.

A good rule that seems to work for a very general price baseline for "frankenstein cars", is to take the value of the mods, divide them by 2, and add that to the value of what the car would bring in stock configuration.

[Elombard]

Both seem loke really nice $25K cars - max. But beauty is in the eye.....

Hey Dane,
You think they'ed let us test drive that 74 this aft?

[911Rob]

It might only be worth $25, but from the list of upgrades done to that car you can bet it's had $50 spent on her.

Ouch!

I'd love to drive it and compare to my '74. ???
Can you bring it up here Mark on your test drive?
Thanks,

[89911]

Sounds like some people are trying to recoup their expenses in what they put in their cars. What works in home remodeling isn't going to fly in cars.

[rdane]

Originally posted by Mark Wilson
Hey Dane,
You think they'ed let us test drive that 74 this aft?

Bet they would, but how could we keep a straight face when the guy says the price is $50K

[ischmitz]

If someone has really that much money in his project it might be smarter to take it apart and sell the pieces. Of course that doesn't recover labor.....

motor 10K
tranny 2K
suspension with brakes 3k+
set of tires 2k
interior 1k+

And then you end up with a real barebone you can use as a flower planter

[Rick Lee]

I just called and the price is $57,500. Is it really that outrageous? I'm very curious. Seller said he got the engine from PAR in NY and it had 15k miles on it then. He's put 2k miles on it since. Opinions please?

[mjshira]

57,500! someone needs to put down the crack pipe LOL but serious, 35 would be a fair number for this car IF everything checked out.

just my two cents

James

[surflvr911sc]

Both look like way cool cars but both are over priced. The SC is at least getting down in the ballpark.

I know I can't afford to sell mine.

[rdane]

There aren't many street legal Porsches that you can't buy for $57.5K.



94 911 C4 Turbo look wide body 26k mi.

[mjshira]

yeah, that one has been for sale for nearly 18 months, maybe more! When I got my car (1969 911E with full carrera swap from wiring to engine, etc.) I paid 18 and I saw the guys bills which were for nearly 40K! You can't get out of these what you put in UNLESS you run into the right buyer! Witness the 71S black on black and tricked out that was for sale for 35+ for months and months. Not sure what it finally sold for but I am sure it was not 35. But hey, if you don't need the money then I guess you can wait until that right buyer comes along...

James

[cowtown]

Originally posted by mjshira
57,500! someone needs to put down the crack pipe LOL but serious, 35 would be a fair number for this car IF everything checked out.

just my two cents

James

For that kind of money, you can get a '93-'94 Turbo 3.6. Sure the old-time feel's gone, but it's a lot more car for the money.

[rdane]

Here is a better place to use 35/40K IMO.
911 Club Sport

FS: 96 Porsche 993C2 coupe, 6-spd.

Or 50K


1998
Model: 993C2S
Int.Color: Black Leather
Mileage: 23,685 original
Trans Type: 6-spd.
Price: $57,900 obo

Or 40


1996

Model: 993C2 Coupe
Ext.Color: Speed Yellow
Int.Color: Classic Grey Lthr.
Mileage: 55,910
Trans Type: 6-spd.
Price: $40,900 obo

[Superman]

Dane, it would have to be quite a car for me to imagine a selling price in the '30s. Generally, even real nice track cars go for mid to high twenties. With a fresh, young 3.6 Varioram, and the various other upgrades, and assuming the car is sorted and ready to rumble, prices in the thirties might be fair.

[cary]

That's why they call it fishing, not catching.