Oil Line Replacement Questions

Hugh R · 09:54 AM

It looks like both of my rubber oil lines that feed the cams are leaking. I want to buy new ones from PP, but I want input on what to do while I'm in there. Should I replace the chain tensioner oil lines while I'm in there, and also, can I replace all these hoses/lines without pulling the engine? Thanks in advance.

yelcab1 · 02-18-2004, 12:46 PM

Why would you need to pull the engine for that?

What you do need to pull are:

1. AC compressor mounting(s)
2. maybe a distributor to make access easier with your wrench
3. The left hand side plastic hose to the fan

If you leave the metal lines untouched, you won't even need to mess with the carrier sheet metals.

You are talking about your ... 84?

john walker's workshop · 02-18-2004, 12:59 PM

the left line has been updated again, and it doesn't attach to the steel tensioner line in the same place, requiring a new steel line, or in a pinch, the old line can be tweeked enough to reach the connector. the distributor has to come out to get a wrench on the fittings behind it. some folks have been lucky/agile, and swapped the right side hose without removing the A/C bracket, but it's way easier to take it off. the muffler has to come off (84-89) to reach the bolts for the A/C bracket.

Hugh R · 02-18-2004, 01:17 PM

Thanks for the advise. I couldn't tell if the hard oil tensioner line could be pulled through the sheet metal.

chrisp · 02-18-2004, 01:27 PM

Does the Carrera tensioner upgrade include these lines or are they not replaced as part of the upgrade? I am about to have the kit installed on my '83 and want to get the new lines if they aren't included (I know there are some lines in there I just cannot recall which ones).

rzepko6194 · rzepko6194's Garage

You may want to update the hollow bolts on the ends of the oil feed lines with Pelican part number A-105-361-01, while you're in there. This will limit the amount of oil to the cams and help boost oil pressure. This update is especially usefull with a higher mileage engine in hot weather.

JP

1987 Carrera Targa - 17K miles

Wil Ferch · 02-18-2004, 02:50 PM

There are a number of supercessions over the years. The later versions ( especially on the right side by the A/C)..."curve" around more to get better access and clearance around the A/C tower mount.

I would also add the small rubber "holders" of these lines near the flared ends. This prevents vibration-induced cracks of the silver(?) soldered flared ends tht are used where the vertical pieces meet horizontal. Only a few $ as I recall.

---Wil Ferch

North Coast Cab · North Coast Cab's Garage

Be careful on the right side if you leave the A/C bracket connected. It is very difficult to line-up and you could easily cross or damage the threads. Having done so myself, I would advise taking the muffler and bracket off.

John

Hugh R · 02-19-2004, 08:27 AM

Thanks for all the great advise! I'm ordering the parts (including the upgraded brackets) from PP today.

Hugh R · 02-21-2004, 05:59 PM

Ordered my oil lines and crush washers from PP yesterday, and got them today. Hardest problem so far was getting the Seiko A/C compressor out, dropped the muffler and pulled the right lines. Will pull the distributor tomorrow and do the left side and clean up the scuz grease road grime, etc. I'll post a few pics tomorrow when its cleaned up in case you've never seen whats under the distributor and A/C bracket. Thanks all for the advise on pulling the A/C bracket and muffler, made it a lot easier to get to the hoses.

Hugh R · 02-22-2004, 08:34 PM

Put in the new oil hoses and lines and it wasn't too bad. As I said before, getting the A/C compressor out and in was the biggest PITA. Here are a few pics if you've never done this and wondered what the oil lines look like under all that junk.

I'll let you know tomorrow if I put the distributor back in correctly or not. I'm pretty sure that I did, but you never know.

In summary, remove the A/C compressor and bracket, it can be done with a little wiggling around, set the compressor on top of the fan, no need to remove the hoses or wires, pull the muffler, not hard, and set the car to top dead center and pull the distributor, all the hoses then are exposed. Reassembly is the reverse of disassembly as they say in the British shop manuals.