David,

Thanks for taking the time and effort to help out fellow Porsche enthusiast. I have taken the information you provided and included them into my work book.

I know the modification will go much easier now that you have enlightened s all.

Thanks again!

Joe

Ok. I've got some idea on what to look for on the b-pillar side of things. What about the other end? Do you need to fabricate something for the latch to work right?

no
the threaded insert is there under the headliner. if you are VERY careful, you can peel back the headliner and see where they are. Apologies for omitting the removal of the inner side panels so you can access all the trim and seals, but then again, you guys attempting this are pretty savvy

This is amazing, I was contemplating asking the same question. I've almost convinced myself to remove the AC from my black 930. I figure this mod would make it bareable in Houston. I've gone for a year without working AC and it hasn't been too bad. Of course it's not a daily driver.

Hey guys...look here:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/152355-project-73-911-r-rs-week-3-a.html

If you look at the rear section of this car's shell near the trailing edge of the rear window..is this the area of the latch connection holes that supposedly are *always* there?? If so...here's a clean pic.

---Wil Ferch

Excellent Wil Ferch,

To bad there are no pic's of the b-pillar also. I just visited the body shop to view the b-pillars in my car; however, they had not removed the windows. Once I have an opportunity I will take pictures and post for all to see.

Thanks again! - Joe

I swapped popouts into my 78 SC for better airflow, and the one thing I would add to what has already been stated is that the tabs that come off the leading edge of the 1/4 window fit into SLOTS in the B pillar. I initially tried to bolt them on the trailing edge of the B pillar, and when I tried closing the window it was too far back. No big deal, except that the latch broke as I tried to coax the window shut! DOH!

FYI: I will trade my Pop-out windows for a set of new or used in good shape lexan windows.

Damn you guys bringing this thread back to life. Just when I thought I was done with my car for a while, you have to throw this project in my face! ;)

The worse part is, my pop-outs are in my storage unit. burried!

Chili,

Time to knock off the dust and start getting busy! I should get my windows in sometime this week?

I took the liberty of pointing out what Wil was describing.....hope I got it right.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1078946399.jpg

Rick- that's what i call a REAL bare metal restoration!! mind if i keep a picture of it for our clients when they ask?
thanks
dave

Rick, can you post a shot of the b-pillar with the slots added?

I started replacing the rubber around my popouts last night, what a pain in the butt.

Dave and Tom,
I can't take credit for that amazing job. It's merely one of the pics from a link that Wil posted above...I wanted to make it easier for people to reference from one point. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=152355
It was done by "Shaun 84 Targa".

I know this is an old thread but I happen to have a rusty 76 and a rough 80 SC that I am rebuilding. And I think this is one of the best descriptions on how this is done. I thought these pictures might help someone looking to do this project in the future.

Here is a picture of the outside of the B-Pillar on an SC. I don't understand how but somehow you have to put holes in the b-pillar so that the parts of the pop out window can slide in here to be screwed into the holes that are shown in a later picture:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134507291.jpg

And the outside of the B-pillar on the 911S that had pop-outs. You can see the slits where the bracket for the pop out window goes. The SC doesn't have these slits and I am sure that is what has to be cut or drilled out. I have to figure out how to do that.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134507536.jpg

Here you can see the SC has the holes drilled in the B-pillar for the pop out windows.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134507373.jpg

Same as on the 911S
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134507756.jpg

And finally both have these holes drilled in the rear
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134507838.jpg

It is hard to describe but in this picture you can see that the chrome trim has extra material that goes up and over the mating surfaces of the two sheets of metal that meet here:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134507974.jpg

This one is hard to see because it is black trim on a dark car, but you should be able to see that the SC's black trim does not go up and over the place where the two pieces of sheet metal join as the chrome trim does in the picture above. So if you are doing this conversion make sure to get the lower trim along with the windows.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134508111.jpg

I did this mod on my car and it was pretty easy. I did it during a complete respray however. The ventilation increase is well worth it. These pics are very good at showing what you will see. My car had all the holes right where they needed to be.

We really need to combine some posts !!

---> http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=251727&perpage=20&highl ight=quarter%20and%20window&pagenumber=1

Wil


EDIT:
and here -->

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=205906&highlight=popout +AND+quarter


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/show...out+rear+window

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/show...+quarter+window

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/show...+quarter+window

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/show...+quarter+window

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/show...+quarter+window

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/show...+quarter+window

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/show...+quarter+window

...are there more? each one sems to "Add" something new!

Further Edit:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/251727-fixed-rear-quarter-window.html

More:
Andras says.." I think it can be done, but first you have to locate the windows, then podwer coat them black, for these pop-outs came only in chrome, and then fiund all the hardware and the rubber.

I do believe the window size is the same..."

Well...no and no.

1.) some versions came in black from the factory...later model years.
2.) Window is slightly different in size.... acording to PET's different parts numbers for the glass.

- Wil

i found a set of windows with latches and what appears to be the lower trim. Im waiting for a response of further questions from him. I want to put them in my 82sc. Will i need the trim that goes around the rest of the window also?
Upon inspection of my current fixed windows. I am rather baffled as to how they are to be removed. Can anyone give a short rundown on how this is executed. Also how hard are they to get back in if i find myself without the correct parts? How hard is it for someone who has never done anything with windows like this before? Im not so sure that i should attempt it given the picture above of the sc b-pillar. Looks like the pannel needs to be modified to get to the slots ? Im not sure what ill find under there

such great memories of a simpler time on Pelican.

2 of my favorites.

Dave, I can put all my pics on a CD if you want.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171842853.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171842907.jpg