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Pettybird 03-29-2004 01:37 PM

Anyone have a translation for "FAHRFUGLUFTEN"?

I'm not buying low 9's, either.

Yes, Chevy makes it white trash. Being a Mopar man, I am biased, but stop by Cleveland and have a look at a local car show.

Those godawful 80's Boyd wheels don't help, and neither does that horrible hood (front trunk) hole.

I thought California was mean about emissions... I'm thinking that a carbed, blown 383 isn't going to blow as sweetly as an AIR pump/thermo reactor'd EFI 930... ESPECIALLY if it's got a healthy cam.

2 and 2 looks like 3 from here.

BTW my SC goes from 0 to ludicrous speed in under 3 seconds... It helps to have a full tank of Liquid Schwartz.

-Doug (gone to plaid)

tobluforu 03-29-2004 01:57 PM

9's???? Do you know how hard it is to reach 9 in the quarter from a rolling start, let alone a dead stop? That is ****** fast. There are not many street cars that can do it, and I doubt this car can. The viper in my garage is a 11 second car (high 10 on a good day) and it is ****** fast. 9 is out of this world fast. But who knows.

vbush 03-29-2004 04:00 PM

I actually own a 1978 911 with a chevy v8(approx 350 horsepower) My 915 trans is barely surviving the torque. I emailed the owner to ask what trans is in it. The reply was from a dealer who didn't know. My guess is that it is a 930 4speed box and that the ad is wrong. A 915 wouldn't survive a 383 much less one with a blower. By the way my handles great with coilovers.

A Quiet Boom 03-29-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rich22
The Chevy engine likely weighs less than the chili pepper engine.

I don't know why 9's are impossible. I've heard of 944 turbos that run 10's and the ebay car has instant low rpm torque from the supercharger.

I didn't suggest it wasn't possible, in fact the engine should be more than capable of it. My concern was the transaxle not being able to take the load. As for 944's running 10's well the is a huge HP and torque difference between 9 second and 10 seconds and the driveline load goes up exponentially. I've been a drag racer for 15 years and believe me a 915 will not handle those loads, I even doubt a 930 or G50 will handle it. There is also no way he's doing it without slicks or drag radials and that kind of traction will kill all but the toughest drivelines. Sure the car might do it a few times but it won't do it like a purpose built drag car will repeatedly. 20k for a 9 second car is only a deal if the car can hold itself together for at least a whole season of racing. If I had 20k to invest in a drag car it would be something like a mid 80's Mustang with a four cylinder in which I'd remove the whole driveline, suspension and engine, weld in a cage and replace everything with true racing parts and for that my 20k would last a lot longer than a few blasts down the strip.

mwbaum 03-29-2004 04:36 PM

Pettybird....Die Luft ....is _air_ in German...so I guess its a "take-off" of sorts...:)

JeremyD 03-29-2004 05:41 PM

vbush - did you come to one of our coffee get togethers? If so, your car is very nicely done.

c4cation 04-01-2004 10:24 AM

He put a hood scoop on the front trunk. I will kick him in the nutz if I ever meet him.

twin-plug 08-06-2004 03:36 PM

I actually drove up there and looked at, and rode in this car. I love Porsches, and really trick hot rods. I'm also very familiar with the V-8 conversions done with Porsches since Rod Simpson first did it in the late 60's.
This car really looked good from about 20 ft away. But on closer inspection; all four tires were severely hitting the fenders, with big gouges showing on all four, which was comfirmed with a test ride. On the test ride, the owner would not go over 30 mph, why?
The engine ran horrible, hitting on only 6-7 cylinders, really! Looked and sounded worn out to me.
The trans made awful noises when shifted.
The interior was in need of total restoration.
Basically this was a fright pig; good only for neighborhood car shows and the like.
As far as being a "930 killer", as the ad stated; nothing could be further from the truth. I truly believe my old '92 Explorer with 135k miles could take that thing in a drag race.

Jim S.
1981 Kremer 930, 3.4L, twin-plug, K-29, B&B Tri-flow, headers, gruppe B cams, variable boost, etc.

Neilk 08-06-2004 04:56 PM

With the rear end nearly split in two to accommodate the super charger pulley, what do you think happens when he revs the engine? Does it twist the whole rear end? It looks like it must have compromised a fair amount of torsional rigidity

raceman 08-06-2004 05:07 PM

So we get the real goods here by someone who has actually driven in the car.lt`s too bad the car couldn`t even perform because although engine swap Porsches cause all kinds of outrage(often by people who don`t even own a Porsche and usually by someone who`s never done any type of engine swap),the fact remains that huge horsepower engines in Porsches create huge smiles.The thing that irritates me the most with these swaps is that they always look like all the parts were bought at Summit and Pep Boys.They always have a grant steering wheel and usually sport an old school B&M shifter grip with the finger impressions.l`ve heard about the only acceptable V8 conversion but have never seen pics...that`s right, a 928 mill in a 911. ls this okay with y`all? any pics of the 928 conversion appreciated,l know it`s out there

Jay Auskin 08-06-2004 06:43 PM

What's with the Chevy=white trash??? I see cheap horsepower. Guessing by the age of most Pelican members, most of you probably lived in a time when the small block Chevy owned the road. You probably even had one. No one knows why it no longer has the 930 engine in it, but I'm guessing that it's toast.

I appreciate my '72 911 for the original beauty that it is, but the blown Chevy 930 is just downright amusing!

Jeff Alton 08-06-2004 06:46 PM

Why must people do this?? Different strokes for different folks I guess. Just seems like a great big waste of time and money to me. But then agian, there is a guy up here that put a 3 cyl Suzuki engine is his 912...... at least a V8 makes some power!


Jeff

mjshira 08-06-2004 06:52 PM

yuck

RarlyL8 08-06-2004 06:56 PM

You new folks will find that fellas around here get real up tight when you threaten their $30,000 500hp 930 engines with $5,000 500hp small block chebbies.

Looks like that car had its day. The owner must have thrashed it enough to tear everything up. Now it's time to sell.

Have you seen the film H2O911 has of his car burning 'em off from a roll? Pretty damned impressive. Looks pretty fun too.

bell 08-06-2004 10:24 PM

looking at it from the rear makes me believe it grew up on the side of a hill :D
http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/01/91/24/75_1_s.JPG

dd74 08-06-2004 11:05 PM

I don't see the real big problem with this car aside from what Julletjen mentioned. Inherently, there may be some engineering dilemas with this car, or just some very strange measuring of its 0-100 time of 5 seconds. One thing's for sure: I wouldn't drive it near population; at least not on L.A. County's mountain roads. The car sounds to unpredictable.

Conversely, I agree with Julletjen about his assessment of an alternative to this car - like a Formula Atlantic car. I have seen those for $20K. And heck, if one needs V8 power, I'm sure the same amount of money could get a person into an old Can Am or Trans Am race car.

YMMV...

Porschekid962 08-07-2004 01:09 AM

What part about owning a Porsche is cheap? If you want to do anything right it costs you money whether you are building a 3.6 TT raced out engine or swapping in a V8. Sure the V8 itself costs less but to have it installed properly and beefing up the drivetrain and trans costs money as well. I have driven my neighbors viper and can appreciate what american muscle is like but I also appreciate a well sorted 911 and the reward of driving one to the limit.

I am pretty sure you can have an older chevy car for less than a porsche and then dump a blown big block in it and have just as much fun. That engine hangs way out the back and raises the roll centre of the car as well. As was mentioned earlier all that hacking on the rear engine metal doesnt help things in the handling dept. either and I dont see any reinforcement.

If you want to go that fast get a bike, get a caterham, a formula vee car, shoot, buy an old civic for 1000, dump a 3.2 litre honda v6 in it and twin turbo it. stripped down civics weigh about 1800 lbs.

Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Porschekid962 08-07-2004 01:12 AM

what about the guy about 6 years back who strapped a JATO rocket to his nova?? He left rubber for about 400 feet when he hit the brakes and couldnt stop after he started the rocket, then took off and flew into the side of a mesa. im pretty sure he might be one of the fastest nova's to date.

twin-plug 08-07-2004 05:58 AM

That car was NOT made from a 930. It was a salvaged 911. The trans is a 915, not a 930. Brakes were also standard 911 from that era, not 930's. The car had not been registered for many years, and never in its current configuration.
And there was absolutely no air filter of any sort on top of the carb, as there was no room for any. The engine leaked oil. The "roll bar" hit me squarely in the back of the head, and the seat wouldn't go back enough to allow a confortable driving position. And yes, chopping up a structural part of the car to accomodate the blower pulleys and belt probably isn't the greatest idea.
If one was willing to put some serious money into it rebuilding the engine, putting in a G50/50 trans, and re-doing many other things, it could be a fun car. But I didn't want to spend that kind of money for something that would not be worth more than 14-18k at best.
Another one sold a few months ago on ebay for 14k, and it was a nice looking wide bodied slant nose. Very clean, street legal, registered car.
I missed that one.
For 14-15k, one might be fun to play around with, but I wouldn't invest more.

Jim S.

dickster 08-07-2004 06:44 AM

ignoring the performance and handling, if you like 911's and V8's then i dont see why not. seems like a bargain if you like that sort of thing.

*edit* i thought it was street legal.


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