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The CA smog people are at it again (repeal of 30yr rolling exemption)

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AB 2683 - repeal of the CA 30 year smog exemption
For those of you who've followed this saga: yes, again.

AB 2683, introduced on 20 Feb, proposes to remove the current 30 year rolling exemption for smog checks, and fix the new cutoff year at 1976. That is, owners of 1976 and later cars will still be subject to biannual checks, even in 2006 and beyond.

The bill is brand new, so it's still very early in the process. If you live in California, write your Assemblyperson a polite letter stating your views on the subject. This DOES work. Letter writing campaigns killed two previous attempts to repeal this law.


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Hmmm, I wonder what is worse for the environment? old cars, properly cared for or new cars, requiring the use of more raw materials?

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Hey Cowtown, do you know what the current cut off is? And what are you doing living in Davis and not likeing this law. I thought it started in Davis. LOL

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Thanks for the tip! I didn't know Davis was that close to Sacto! ;o)

I just bought a low mileage '76 teener and was planning on de-smogging it eventually; I'll definitely be doing my letter writing!
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Hey Cowtown, do you know what the current cut off is? And what are you doing living in Davis and not likeing this law. I thought it started in Davis. LOL

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Well you know what they say about Davis - It's a nice place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit!

Currently model years '75 and older are exempt. I'd be worried if I had a '76.
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Nooooooooo!!! I'm so close!!! Looks like I'm gonna be harrassin' the Governator. If this passes it will make the 76 and 77 middle year 911s are the worst 911s (in California) to own.
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Is this AB from the same person as last year, Flores?
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Is this AB from the same person as last year, Flores?
No- author is Lieber. Full text at this link.

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Tom, where did you grow up? Were you around in 1963-69 Huntington Beach?

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75's are going to get real desirable?
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Tom, where did you grow up? Were you around in 1963-69 Huntington Beach?
Nah, I surfed HB occasionally in that period, but I am a 4th generation native San Diegan. born and raised here.

I see you're from Grass Valley. My brother has lived there and in Nevada City for the last 30+ years.

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My thinking is Flores did so well last year bargaining away his 30-year roll back initiative that someone else is copying this tactic.
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Find your representatives by following this link, and clicking on "Find My District":

California Legislative Portal

You can also contact the members of the Natural Resources Comittee and let each of them know what you think.
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How hard is it to get registered in NV and just bypass the CA system altogether? I may have a move to CA in my future and don't want to deal with it, if if at all possible.
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If you are a permanent resident in Calif, you have 6 months to register your car in CA or you're ripe for a ticket.
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If you don't know the number of your Assembly Representative go to this link

http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/defaulttext.asp

and on the left side near the top is a link called "find my district" click on that and a window will pop up. Enter you address and boom, you'll have their name, number, and address.

If someone can identify what commitee this bill is in then targeting the leadership of that commitee is the best thing to do.

You could call them and that helps, but a paper letter is most effective. Of course more effective even than that is when they get buried in mail, email, faxes, and phone calls all in one day.

Whatever you do I would not reccommend telling them that the reason that you want the rolling exemption is so you can rip off all that emmissions crap and make all kinds of performance (and smog) enhancing modifications. Talk about depressed value of collector cars, how the gross polluter law prevents old clunkers from continuing to pollute, and how the uncertain regulatory environment is very discriminatory to owners of collector cars from this era.


Personally I would be in favor of all cars being required to meet some emissions requirements. There should be some kind of sliding scale for older cars. BUT this would only work if people were allowed to modify the emission gear on their cars. The standard would have to be purely performance based. Stick the sniffer up there and you pass or not. This would create a demand for aftermarket emissions equipment that works. I would love to install the CIS-EFI kit on my car, slap some SSIs modified to accept a small catalyst on each side, and a high flow muffler. I guarantee my overall emissions would be lower, I'd be happier, and it would create jobs in a whole new industry of aftermarket emissions gear. Now I'll get off my soapbox.
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Here's a copy of my email....

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I am opposed to the repeal of the 30 year roll back of smog checks. As an owner of a vintage Porsche(s), the repeal would put an unfair burden on the ownership of such vehicles.

Smog equipment wears out; OEM manufacturers are not required to provide these parts in the new parts catalog until rather recently. Our only choice is used parts which are priced many times higher than new and often don't work. BUT if the part is there and on the car, you have a receipt for the part and it passes the tail pipe test, you’re OK.

Besides vintage car owners, lower waged owners of the targeted vehicles cannot afford the parts.

If you are trying to get poorly maintained vehicles of the road, I would suggest putting more effort into the smoking vehicle programs with the CHP. One area that boggles my mind is that DMV does NOT require proof of insurance liability when someone buys a car and first registers it.

They only ask when someone RE-registers it. DMV also does not check if the insurance is active the whole year. A person can get a one month policy or stop payment on the policy and then they drive without insurance.

As one who HAS insurance and pays close to an additional $8.000 a year for medical coverage for his family, I think there are better things to do with your legislative agenda. Not only do I have insurance, but I am REQUIRED to have uninsured motorist coverage. This is in a State that supposedly has mandatory insurance coverage to drive.

Let's enforce the laws we have, not add more legislation that puts a financial burden on law abiding citizens.

Any WELL maintained vehicle that makes it 30 years on California Highways deserves a break.
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If you are a permanent resident in Calif, you have 6 months to register your car in CA or you're ripe for a ticket.
i was told that i had 20 days to get my car registered after having it shipped in from texas. i got the shipper to leave the date box blank, just in case any wacko at the DMV needed proof. but my car was not running an was hidden in my garage!
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I won't be letting anyone with the state know I'm there until my VA regis. runs out in May 2005.

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