Is a Cool Collar worth it for 12* redux?

[RSBob]

Reading the technical forum, Cool Collars were recommended as the most cost effective solution to reducing oil temp. For an early car, the figure is 12 degrees, more for later cars. Are 12 degrees even enough to be concerned about if the car is running at normal temps? Will it help increase engine life? Is it the second coming for only $39.95 + S&H?

[Speedy1]

NO!

[Emission]

No. No. No.

Waste of money.

[Emission]

Oh, I forgot to say that a 12 degree reduction in temps is HIGHLY UNLIKELY from the Cool Collar.

No. No. No.

[FenderGuy]

If that is the case why would Pelican sell them?

[azasadny]

Timely thread as I was also considering one of these Cool Collars. Is it a waste (gimmick) or does it do anything positive? Thanks!

[Emission]

Originally posted by FenderGuy
If that is the case why would Pelican sell them?

Nothing against Pelican, but if you've got a store and people ask for things, you've got to stock them - even if they are all bling.

Cool Collar doesn't work because there isn't enough airflow around the filter (sealed engine compartment in a Porsche), and the oil filter isn't designed to be a radiator (the oil isn't deliberately flowing around the filter canister to be cooled - it just wants to pass it through a filter and get rid of it).

[7of911]

I got a 5 degF reduction using a cool colar. YMMV. Got a 50+ degF reduction installing a fender mounted cooler and fan in my hot running 2.7 L. Was a bit more 'spensive than $30 tho.


--Ian

[Wayne 962]

The Cool Collar does indeed work. Search the archives - plenty of people have done plenty of tests proving that it does help. How much it reduces temps - well that's up to debate.

We've had customers do many, many, many tests with this units. Each and every time, they say that it reduces the oil temps of the car by a measureable amount. There's really no debate on this - search the archives - the proof from our customers is there.

Still there are people who refuse to acknowledge the test results.

I don't know where you got the 12-degree thing from, but it's more like a consistent 5 degree difference.

-Wayne

[Wayne 962]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/search.php?action=showresults&searchid=695574&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

[jgporsche]

I actually stooped to buying one of these. I did notice my oil temperature needle was in a lower position on the way to and from work. Go figure!

[Emission]

Can one of us "non-believers" borrow one for a few days?

[Zeke]

Maybe not, but finned cooling lines work. Secret word: Elephant.

Only a guy who races elephants could come up with such a thing.

[SteveStromberg]

The Original Cool collar

[Wayne 962]

Originally posted by Emission
Can one of us "non-believers" borrow one for a few days?

On previous threads, I believe I offered money-back guarantees if the product didn't lower oil temps.

-Wayne

[RSBob]

Air Cooled Engine (Road Test)

The test vehicle used was a 1978, 911SC Porsche, equipped with a carrera style oil cooler. The car was driven 65 MPH on a 85 degree day for approximately 35 miles. The car was then stopped and a I.R. thermometer was used to check the temperatures at various points along the oil lines, tank and cooler. In addition, the reading on the dash temperature gauge was noted. An average temperature of 220 degrees was logged.

Testing was then resumed, with the Cool Collar installed on the oil filter, over the same coarse and speed. At the end of the 35 miles the temperatures were then checked again using the infra-red thermometer at the same points as before. The indicated temperature readings showed an average reading of 208 degrees, a reduction of 12 degrees.

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[Emission]

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
On previous threads, I believe I offered money-back guarantees if the product didn't lower oil temps.

-Wayne

Hmmm... the curiosity to try this thing is killing me (I am so convinced it won't work ). I've got an IR Thermometer, so I can actually test the temps on the filter and lines.

So, does the money-back guarantee still apply? If so, I'll order one tonight and post my results in a month!

[aigel]

It is clear that it MUST work. It increases the surface area and it sits on a very hot spot of the oiling system. I am prett sure when driving at speed, that there is significant air flow in that area. Even if not - radiation and convection still depend on the surface area.

That all said, just like Wayne indicates, the question is if the temperature decrease is significant enough to make much of a difference. 12 degrees, that's not going to put you in a significantly different spot than where you were before.

For the improvement of cooling there are othe cheap tricks that may help just as much, cleaning the engine (the cylinder and head fins) is an example. Also make sure your car is tuned correctly. E.g. running lean or off timing can make it run significanlty hotter than it should.


Cheers, George

[aigel]

Originally posted by SoCal911SC
But to where does that air flow?

Brian:
I am not saying that there is cross flow. However, there is much turbulence and air must get whirled around in there, there is no question. If you don't believe me, just light a tea candle and glue it to the top of your oil filter. Drive around the block. If that candle is still going when you are back, you win.

George

[Wayne 962]

Originally posted by Emission
Hmmm... the curiosity to try this thing is killing me (I am so convinced it won't work ). I've got an IR Thermometer, so I can actually test the temps on the filter and lines.

So, does the money-back guarantee still apply? If so, I'll order one tonight and post my results in a month!

When I first saw the thing, I didn't think it would work either. However, countless people have done the tests over and over again, and they continually say that it reduces oil temps by some degree (5 degrees is what I hear).

Fine, I'll play along - I'll give you a money-back guarantee on it (only you - this doesn't apply to everyone). Test it. I've sold hundreds of these over the past few years. I think only a couple have been returned, (because they didn't fit on the car?).

-Wayne