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k9handler 06-04-2004 06:16 AM

update? I am watching for more tech info...not the bickering.

JeremyD 06-04-2004 08:21 AM

Excellent work Sunset Fun and thanks for the education...
Is this a crack? and did you have to bite your tongue when your client came in asking for a Slope Nose conversion? At least they are getting it done correctly!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086123514.jpg

TurboRuf 06-04-2004 05:33 PM

... and the windshield washer bottle? :D

89turbocabmike 06-04-2004 08:56 PM

Thanks for the pics Sunset Fun. I'm really enjoying the process!

I'm amused by the controversy on this conversion. You'd think they were doing an Avalanche conversion or some testarossa-style conversion with F/G glued on the quarters after hacking off the old flares with an torch. Looks like a factory-like install to me/factory front fenders even! I never see this kind of derision when someone wants to RSR/RS/IROC/Ruf..... etc? What's up? Opinions are great but let's present them with some class! If I were the owner of this car(who I assume knows that his car is posted on the Board) I'd be a bit disappointed with the harsh criticism, I know I am. DUCK!

raceman 06-04-2004 09:49 PM

l agree,the conversion is top notch and a legitimate Porsche option at that.The slant nose speaks of the particularly memorable excesses of the eighties but it`s still a hot car and an awesome design,much more aerodynamic.l think all the backyard 912 targa widebody slantnose with chrome wheels and a Grant steering wheel conversions have ruined peoples perceptions of good conversions.That will be a tight car,done right.

Emission 06-04-2004 10:45 PM

Great thread... I am learning tons about this type of work. Thanks!

K. Roman 06-04-2004 10:53 PM

Sunset Fun, you are a very tolerant guy, firstly by doing a conversion that raises more than a few eyebrows, and secondly, by just filtering out some of the harsh comments that goes along with the very passionate side of the purists. Cheeers!

SteveStromberg 06-05-2004 08:41 AM

I always liked the lines of the Slantnose.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086453586.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086453604.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086453626.jpg

It reminds me of the Porsche racing heritage.

DP935CAB 06-05-2004 12:35 PM

I love the look of the slantnose, especially the ones done by DP http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086467696.jpg

DP935CAB 06-05-2004 12:37 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086467820.jpg

JeremyD 06-06-2004 05:09 AM

Nice car DP - does it have all the DP Goodies? - If I remember correctly - the DP cars would embarrass every other car on the road in the late 80’s…

DP935CAB 06-06-2004 02:33 PM

Thanks Jeremy. Nice to see someone remembers these cars from the eighties. This one is a USA car that was sent over to DP Motorsports right from the Porsche factory when it was new. They did the complete conversion and then the car was sold thru Fred Opert Racing in NJ. He was a DP dealer back then. I bought it from the original owner who kept it for 15 years before selling it to buy a Ferarri. I have seen a few DP coupes for sale, but have never seen another turbo cabriolet on the market. I don't think many DP's made it into the country and those that did got raced and wrecked. It has 14,000 miles on it.
Its pretty quick and a blast to drive.

david c. 06-06-2004 04:05 PM

any pics of the dp coupe?

DP935CAB 06-06-2004 04:18 PM

here is a couple. My hard drive is full of them......
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086567518.jpg

DP935CAB 06-06-2004 04:24 PM

This is Steve's beautiful DP 935 Turbo Coupe
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086567871.jpg

DP935CAB 06-06-2004 04:34 PM

This is a Dp 935 II
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086568430.jpg

kepperly 06-07-2004 01:09 PM

WERK-I,
THE PHOTOS OF FACTORY SLANTS I HAVE SEEN AND REAL ONES I'VE
VIEWEDUP CLOSE ARE SPLIT BETWEEN THE FRONT LOWER VALANCE OIL COOLER AND HAVING THE COOLER IN THE RIGHT REAR BRAKE DUCT. WHEN I PURCHASED MY AFTER MARKET SLANT THE ORIGINAL
OIL COOLER WAS MOUNTED BEHIND THE RIGHT REAR WHEEL W/ OIL THE LINES ROUTED THROUGH THE THEN FIBERGLASS REAR BUMPER. I HAVE SOME PHOTOS ON DISC OF THE CONVERSION AND OF THE FAN INSTALL, BUT I HAVE YET TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO POST THEM. SOME ONE SEND ME YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND IF YOU WANT TO PUT THEM UP I WILL EMAIL THEM TO YOU.

KEITH EPPERLY
87 SLANT NOSE TUBO LOOK CARRERA CABRIOLET SUMMER YELLOW/ NAVY BLUE PARTIAL LEATHER INTERIOR/ BLACK SOFT TOP

RickM 06-07-2004 01:25 PM

Keith, I know that at least some years of the Euro 930S had the oil cooler up front. I thought the earlier US models did as well.

I also recall seeing the first wheel well mounted cooler with fan on the Driver's side rear.....at the NY Auto show.

EDIT: Strike Driver's side....I'm not sure now. :D

WERK I 06-07-2004 01:29 PM

Originally posted by kepperly [/i]
WERK-I,
THE PHOTOS OF FACTORY SLANTS I HAVE SEEN AND REAL ONES I'VE
VIEWEDUP CLOSE ARE SPLIT BETWEEN THE FRONT LOWER VALANCE OIL COOLER AND HAVING THE COOLER IN THE RIGHT REAR BRAKE DUCT. WHEN I PURCHASED MY AFTER MARKET SLANT THE ORIGINAL
OIL COOLER WAS MOUNTED BEHIND THE RIGHT REAR WHEEL W/ OIL THE LINES ROUTED THROUGH THE THEN FIBERGLASS REAR BUMPER. I HAVE SOME PHOTOS ON DISC OF THE CONVERSION AND OF THE FAN INSTALL, BUT I HAVE YET TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO POST THEM. SOME ONE SEND ME YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND IF YOU WANT TO PUT THEM UP I WILL EMAIL THEM TO YOU.

kepperly,
The factory optioned slantnoses on/after 1986(MY '87) had the oil coolers mounted in the "brake vent" on the passenger side. They were mandated to be relocated from the front (front end collision/fire hazard). The front valence on these cars were equipped with the standard 930 front valence.
Prior to the MY '87, slantnoses were "Special Wishes" cars and could be equiped with any feature the customer was willing to pay for. All the pre-87 slantnoses I've seen have had the oil cooler in the front valence. It really is a much more effective location for cooling than the brake vent due to size of the front cooler(HUGE!!) and airflow.

rick-l 06-07-2004 07:31 PM

Sunset Fun -- did you guys take the day off?

Kemo 06-08-2004 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rick-l
Sunset Fun -- did you guys take the day off?
yeah! i been following this thread with anticipation *drools*

cant wait for the next round of pics...

kepperly 06-08-2004 07:37 AM

WERK I,
Thanks for that bit of info, I was wondering if that was the
reason for the differance. I did my Carrera as close to the "later"
factory style with a Mocal cooler and aftermarket fan. Certainly
made the plumbing relatively easier. And I like the look of the
factory steel valance better.

Keith Epperly-87 slant nose turbo look carrera cabriolet

Victor 06-14-2004 05:58 PM

Feeling better yet? Maybe he should lay off the cigars....

kepperly 06-17-2004 12:34 PM

bump, need more info, more photos

RickM 06-17-2004 01:35 PM

That tail rubber is not happy.

Kemo 06-17-2004 01:51 PM

nice...progress...love it.

Victor 06-17-2004 02:24 PM

Any pics of the tuna? Hope he didn't put the cigar down during the fight!

k9handler 06-17-2004 07:42 PM

good to see you guys back in action.

Matt Smith 06-17-2004 08:51 PM

Savagery to tuna as well as tin. Will it never end?
Please end that poor 911's suffering.

rlh930 06-17-2004 09:18 PM

I remember, back in the day, when those turbo-look slant-noses were really cool. Well, it's only a Targa!

Adam 06-17-2004 09:46 PM

Thanks for keeping us in the loop on this project. I've been watching with interest!

Ray 911s 06-18-2004 05:23 AM

Glad you are back! And thanks for the thread.

Kurt B 06-18-2004 07:17 AM

A post like this can't be beat! Unfortunately, it looks very easy in the pictures, but I would be nuts for trying (and wouldn't). Very cool post! This is one for the archives.

Kurt B 06-18-2004 07:19 AM

Someone explain "peel and weld"

Emission 06-18-2004 02:15 PM

I am pretty naive about bodywork.

After the peel and weld, do you use filler (Bondo?) to fill the gap? What happens next?

RickM 06-18-2004 02:42 PM

Emission,

There are a couple of different, yet similar, techniques for doing this.
To answer your question, while you "trace cut" there will be a gap between the new flare and the existing body panel, in this case the upper quarter panel. As you progress this gap is spot welded, an inch or two apart, to hold the new flare in place. When the entire flare is spot welded in place you can remove the old flare from within the wheel well.
The spaces between the spot welds can then be connected using the butt welding technique. This is typically done on an alternatining basis to prevent heat build up in a small area which will create warping.

Hope this isn't confusing.

Porschekid962 06-18-2004 02:47 PM

jeeze is there enough Bondo on the welded on fender??? looks like a lot. interesting, i have never seen this done before, very cool its being put up for show and tell.

Emission 06-18-2004 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RickM
Emission,

There are a couple of different, yet similar, techniques for doing this.
To answer your question, while you "trace cut" there will be a gap between the new flare and the existing body panel, in this case the upper quarter panel. As you progress this gap is spot welded, an inch or two apart, to hold the new flare in place. When the entire flare is spot welded in place you can remove the old flare from within the wheel well.
The spaces between the spot welds can then be connected using the butt welding technique. This is typically done on an alternatining basis to prevent heat build up in a small area which will create warping.

Hope this isn't confusing.

...then you grind of the bead from the weld and smooth the metal down... right?

Very nice, and it's 100% steel. Cool.

89turbocabmike 06-18-2004 04:06 PM

Sunset, I sort of familiar with the concept of shrinking, but what would be the result of not"wet ragging" it? Does shrinking smooth the surface more or is it a stress-relieving measure? Thanks for the effort in posting this project!

Sunset Fun 06-21-2004 08:01 AM

The use of Heat and a Wet rag are to shink the metal. After using the Hammer and dolly to shape the metal. It is not necessary to Heat and hit with the Wet Rag.
You can use filler to get the surface smooth, We like to use as little filler as possible that why we use the Heat and wet rag to shink the metal.


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