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gerard vaglio 06-08-2004 04:52 AM

engine start button advice
 
Okay, I've decided I can't live without an engine start button.

Just so you know, you still need the keys to start the car so it can't be stolen by simply pressing the button. After the installation you simply turn the key and THEN press the button.

This new/old 2 step proceedure adds to the automotive drama. It also seems to be back in fashion. The new Aston Martin has an engine start button, the BMW Z8 and Enzo have them. "oh, so if your friends jump off a cliff you will too, huh?"

It's all very logical, really, I already have the button, it's red and has "engine start" printed right on it. It even lights up at night so when your driving you know that earlier you did in fact start the engine. When you first get in the car if you forget what to do next you can simply read the button. I works on so many levels. Now I need some electrical advice.

On an 79sc what type of relay?

How do I wires it up? I found a post on how to wire one up to a Miata but I need instruction for this car. I don't want to make a mistake or disturbe any wires I don't have to.

Any electrical gurus out there?

Matt77Euro27 06-08-2004 05:39 AM

Where did you get the button?

SpeedracerIndy 06-08-2004 06:50 AM

Can't help, but here have been a few threads on this:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=160657&highlight=engine +start+button
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73338&highlight=engine+ start+button

raceman 06-08-2004 07:56 AM

l installed one in my car,looks/works great.For pics do a search on this forum for " silver bullet picture thread " As far as being a ricey mod cars have had start buttons for many years and it`s a race car thing.l love it personally

gerard vaglio 06-08-2004 10:56 AM

Matt,

I got the button from www.handa-accessories.com I don't think Pelican sells these, at least I"ve never seen them.

Rondinone 06-08-2004 03:00 PM

Take a look at the electrical schematics. All you have to do is find the yellow '50' wire, which you can tap into at the fuse block on the fuel pump relay, and send 12V to it through your button.

Early_S_Man 06-08-2004 04:10 PM

Gerard,

Your car should have the wire for optional rear fog lamp already in the wiring harness ... taped & tied up behind the dash, and taped-up on the left rear tail-lamp wiring harness.

My suggestion would be to use the rear fog lamp lead to carry the signal to the relay that would be mounted on the rear electrical panel. Intercept the Yellow #50 starter solenoid lead at pin #1 of the 14-pin plug and re-route it to the relay. You can even install a remote starter switch on the electrical panel ... for those times when you would like to turn over the engine with the starter, and don't have an assistant around!

golfnow 06-08-2004 04:28 PM

I did one and love it got the button
At Nappa for $9 and got the starter relay from Pelican for
Like $18. Then it was some trial and error to hook it up
All I have is the Haynes Manual and the wire diagrams
Aren’t correct for the wire colors.

A Quiet Boom 06-08-2004 05:33 PM

I'll second Warren's advice on the engine compartment mounted second button. I used these on my drag cars to bump the engine when checking valve lash, timing etc. Very handy and easy to install inline with a dash button. In fact one would have come in really handy when I was first tuning my carbs and the engine kept stalling. ;)

RoninLB 06-08-2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by A Quiet Boom
I'll second Warren's advice on the engine compartment mounted second button.
ditto

gerard vaglio 06-08-2004 07:50 PM

Thanks for all the advice, I'll post pictures of the install if it happens this weekend. Till then, I'm forced to start the car with the keys.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086753011.jpg

RoninLB 06-08-2004 07:54 PM

there are variations on an install.. if you have the time make it cannon ball proof.

82SC 06-08-2004 09:08 PM

i think that button is off a Honda S2000 if I am not mistaken

gerard vaglio 06-08-2004 09:17 PM

82sc,

You are correct sir, do you know of a start button that you like better? If I'm going to do this I want to do it with, among other things, the best button.

Randy Webb 06-08-2004 09:31 PM

YOu just rewire the emergency flasher button....

A Quiet Boom 06-08-2004 09:39 PM

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A Quiet Boom 06-08-2004 09:43 PM

I thought this switch was neat as it lights up.

http://www.speeding.co.uk/acatalog/swi.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086759740.jpg
Then of course there's high quality Allen Bradley industrial stuff.

http://www.allenbradley.com/industrialcontrols/products/push_buttons/22mm/800F_operators.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1086759802.jpg

But I usually use a regular race car button with the rubber cover available at Summit Racing or Jegs.


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