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engine start button advice
Okay, I've decided I can't live without an engine start button.
Just so you know, you still need the keys to start the car so it can't be stolen by simply pressing the button. After the installation you simply turn the key and THEN press the button. This new/old 2 step proceedure adds to the automotive drama. It also seems to be back in fashion. The new Aston Martin has an engine start button, the BMW Z8 and Enzo have them. "oh, so if your friends jump off a cliff you will too, huh?" It's all very logical, really, I already have the button, it's red and has "engine start" printed right on it. It even lights up at night so when your driving you know that earlier you did in fact start the engine. When you first get in the car if you forget what to do next you can simply read the button. I works on so many levels. Now I need some electrical advice. On an 79sc what type of relay? How do I wires it up? I found a post on how to wire one up to a Miata but I need instruction for this car. I don't want to make a mistake or disturbe any wires I don't have to. Any electrical gurus out there? |
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Where did you get the button?
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Can't help, but here have been a few threads on this:
Start button instead of Key? Push Button Ignition ???
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06-08-2004, 06:50 AM
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l installed one in my car,looks/works great.For pics do a search on this forum for " silver bullet picture thread " As far as being a ricey mod cars have had start buttons for many years and it`s a race car thing.l love it personally
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Matt,
I got the button from www.handa-accessories.com I don't think Pelican sells these, at least I"ve never seen them. |
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Take a look at the electrical schematics. All you have to do is find the yellow '50' wire, which you can tap into at the fuse block on the fuel pump relay, and send 12V to it through your button.
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Gerard,
Your car should have the wire for optional rear fog lamp already in the wiring harness ... taped & tied up behind the dash, and taped-up on the left rear tail-lamp wiring harness. My suggestion would be to use the rear fog lamp lead to carry the signal to the relay that would be mounted on the rear electrical panel. Intercept the Yellow #50 starter solenoid lead at pin #1 of the 14-pin plug and re-route it to the relay. You can even install a remote starter switch on the electrical panel ... for those times when you would like to turn over the engine with the starter, and don't have an assistant around!
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I did one and love it got the button
At Nappa for $9 and got the starter relay from Pelican for Like $18. Then it was some trial and error to hook it up All I have is the Haynes Manual and the wire diagrams Aren’t correct for the wire colors.
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I'll second Warren's advice on the engine compartment mounted second button. I used these on my drag cars to bump the engine when checking valve lash, timing etc. Very handy and easy to install inline with a dash button. In fact one would have come in really handy when I was first tuning my carbs and the engine kept stalling.
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Thanks for all the advice, I'll post pictures of the install if it happens this weekend. Till then, I'm forced to start the car with the keys.
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there are variations on an install.. if you have the time make it cannon ball proof.
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i think that button is off a Honda S2000 if I am not mistaken
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You are correct sir, do you know of a start button that you like better? If I'm going to do this I want to do it with, among other things, the best button. |
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YOu just rewire the emergency flasher button....
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I thought this switch was neat as it lights up.
http://www.speeding.co.uk/acatalog/swi.html  Then of course there's high quality Allen Bradley industrial stuff. http://www.allenbradley.com/industrialcontrols/products/push_buttons/22mm/800F_operators.html  But I usually use a regular race car button with the rubber cover available at Summit Racing or Jegs.
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