More A/C Cocktail Stuff

brcorp · brcorp's Garage

Check this stuff out.

http://www.liquidcoldaz.com

Any comments?

Por_sha911 · Por_sha911's Garage

Sounds too good to be true. Either it is incredible stuff or snake oil.

scottb · 07-02-2004, 07:52 PM

Gotta be snake oil. Hopefully Jim Sims will weigh in on this.

TurboBert · 07-02-2004, 08:12 PM

Snake oil, for sure.

brcorp · brcorp's Garage

1 oz is all it takes @ $99.95 Not sold over the counter, you have to bring the car in. I was half asleep last night when the commerical came so I'm yelling for the wife or kids to hurry and get a pen so I can get the number. If each one of you sends me a dollar I'll try it and let you know if it works. I've got to go and finish watching Rocky 5 for the 400th time.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

Hmmm. Snake oil....hahahahahaha

It's _OIL_

James

Jim Sims · 07-03-2004, 08:14 AM

I am unfamiliar with this compound and reading through the provided information didn't provide much more insight. A quick review of the official government test results leads only to the conclusion that this compound meets or slightly exceeds minimum refrigerant oil standards. The explanation of how it works sounds like psuedo surface-science or an embellished explanation of the behavior of polar molecules which are really rather common stuff. One doesn't want oil on the interior surface of the heat exchangers (condensers and evaporators) but it is required on the rolling and sliding surfaces of the compressor; how does the compound distinguish the different surfaces? The biggest warning flags are the percentage claims of improvement coupled with the lack of controlled tests. People have spent careers working on the fouling of heat exchanger surfaces (oil coating the inside is one form of fouling) and to see 30% or greater improvement from an oil additive is unlikely. Probably snake oil

as others have already concluded. Cheers, Jim

scottb · 07-03-2004, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Sims
I am unfamiliar with this compound and reading through the provided information didn't provide much more insight. A quick review of the official government test results leads only to the conclusion that this compound meets or slightly exceeds minimum refrigerant oil standards. The explanation of how it works sounds like psuedo surface-science or an embellished explanation of the behavior of polar molecules which are really rather common stuff. One doesn't want oil on the interior surface of the heat exchangers (condensers and evaporators) but it is required on the rolling and sliding surfaces of the compressor; how does the compound distinguish the different surfaces? The biggest warning flags are the percentage claims of improvement coupled with the lack of controlled tests. People have spent careers working on the fouling of heat exchanger surfaces (oil coating the inside is one form of fouling) and to see 30% or greater improvement from an oil additive is unlikely. Probably snake oil as others have already concluded. Cheers, Jim

Like I said, I was hoping Jim Sims would weigh in on this. As always, Jim, thanks for your insightful a/c comments.