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svandamme 07-03-2004 12:32 PM

still not running , but looking good nevertheless
 
spent all day in garage , planned ot drop the engine a 3rd time for final tidbits but the bridge was occupied

so i pushed her out for a couple of pics

that new paint is so funky
it looks different everytime the sky is in a different configuration

today's results > bluesky / thundercloud overcast
kinda spooky

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Jack Olsen 07-03-2004 01:10 PM

That's a great-looking 911.

svandamme 07-03-2004 01:15 PM

coming from you Jack , that's a big boost for my morale

and i can use it , cause it's not running yet, bit of bad luck , couple of mistakes on my end, resulting in a 2 month ongoing delay :D

thanks !

fintstone 07-03-2004 03:55 PM

That is one fine looking 911! Looks like it just came off the assembly line.

svandamme 07-04-2004 09:50 PM

wouldn't go that far flint , there's a dozen things i can come up with that are definately not factory fresh :D i have to little patience, i'm too lazy and i wanna drive the car... 3 reasons why i decided not to let concourse state become an obsession...:D

Zeke 07-04-2004 10:02 PM

You know what makes that car? It's the correct black horn grilles and black trimmed signal lights along with the black number plate. I would go for a non correct black Targa bar to go with the non correct black centered 16's.

svandamme 07-04-2004 10:32 PM

that silver bar is what i like best about it,
those door handles also need to be back to chrome, but i'll get other things sorted out first, them chrome handles ain't cheap

as for the fuchs , i polished the center caps for contrast, and it works pretty good :

http://www.pelicanparts.com/pmpre/im...ndamme/278.jpg

the front isn't in the right height yet, car needs alignment after having been taken apart

that door alignment is one of the things that bugs me a little
it opens and closes , but you can see the sill in that pic
it's like 1 mm to high in the back, but that's a pita to align properly

Paul Franssen 07-05-2004 03:19 AM

Very nice pictures, Stijn, and that car is another classic saved from the junkyard... At first I was upset at those Dutch license plates (I KNOW you are not Dutch, bro!) but, as Zeke wrote, the long Dutch plates, together with that black "old" color (luckily they are not the "normal" yellow plates!), befit your 911 very nicely. I know we are getting closer to the day we will ride our cars together, looking forward to that!
It is a comfort to know that at your 5000 rpm, mine will only arp 4000 or so :D (sorry for hitting under the belt :eek: ).

cassidyp 07-05-2004 05:18 AM

I really like the color black on the early cars. Your car looks great. I can truly appreciate your impatience, heck I bought the second one cause I was too impatient to wait for the 1st to be completed. The third one just needs the carbs rebuilt, but I am trying to convince myself not to start two projects at once.

Dutchie 07-05-2004 05:53 AM

Stijn you car looks awesome ! too bad about the engine must be hell waiting for it to finish.

Paul the black dutch plates are only for 25 yrs and older cars i think they look great on a classic.

svandamme 07-05-2004 07:59 AM

hell Paul , i don't have a belt ! my minibeer belly keeps my pants up :D:D fyi , at 5000 rpm , i've got another 2300 revvies left
and they are loud and proud :D

cassidyp , i got me a 924 to get me through the winter time
it also gave me some headaches, but at least i was mobile in a P-car
like codeine cough syrope for a smack junkie i guess, not the real thing but it get's you through the day

Ed. the black plates are indeed the biznez, they just add to the overal style of the car, instead of the usual yellow uglies that just hurt the eyes

also helps identifying the old timers , oldtimers are all around in holland, and they all flash, so if the 996'es won't flash , there's always somebody who appreciates a black number plate great mentality towards oldtimer cars in holland ( i'll probably be sick to my stomach now , complimenting something dutch but i'll risk it :D )

E30Mracer 07-05-2004 09:13 AM

Mmmmm! Great Targa! What is the name of that colour?
Quick tip on taking photos - When taking pics - try to move the object {a 911 of course :)} closer to fill more space for more dramatic look. Isn't a 911 a perfect photo subject? One can spend a whole day doing that :)

svandamme 07-05-2004 09:49 AM

it was in some sort of metallic black when i bought it ,
and i asked the painter to do in in similar black

he came up with Porsche colour "Metallic Schwarz"
form 79-84 or something not an original 73 factory color ( the car was fushia brown when it was originally delivered )
not identical , he said some thing about less brown in it, and it certainly looks better than the other black, more alive

got to go back for some buffing, couple of drips in the clearcoat , and a scratch ...i'll ask him the exact numbers of the mix

Zeke 07-05-2004 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme
that silver bar is what i like best about it,
those door handles also need to be back to chrome, but i'll get other things sorted out first, them chrome handles ain't cheap

as for the fuchs , i polished the center caps for contrast, and it works pretty good :


Yeah, I can get with the silver bar. Most of your silver is above the door, in the greenhouse area. The Fuchs echo the look from below. Now, too much, and the delicate balance is lost. :D Nice car, mine should look so good.

BTW, the word "correct" in my last post could have been replaced with a better choosen word. I just didn't have one. How about "non-stock?"

svandamme 07-05-2004 10:44 AM

there's very little stock on my car, so not correct ain't wrong

according to the records from porsche
911 S
fushia brown
brown leatherette sports seats and interior
ATS 15inch rims

now :
metallic black (metallic blue before that)
black interior
recarro seats ( old , but doubt they were the 72 ones)
missing oil cooler ( it should have one )
engine number is in the range of the 73 911s targa
but it's not the number on the original papers
missing S trim ( but i'll keep it like that )
7J16 fuchs (one ATS spare left )
already removed the flapper boxes and heating stuff ( headers to replace SS HE's soon)

so not a concours car, couldn't care less, it will have mild bastard factor and i like it that way, i want to keep it almost as is, except some little mods here and there

things i plan / hope to do
- SS HE out > headers in ( MFI modification to figure out for cold start/warm running adjustment )
- front oil cooler, with lines through the old warm air pipes ( hidden )
- Brake cyllinder with power braking from later type ( improve pedal sensitivity, for safety )
- figure out a way to use the oil cooler as a cabin heat radiator (maybe a little detour of the lines to the smuglers box, little radiator there and a fan )
- install a proper fuse box, and clean up electricals in the trunk

anything that makes the car more practical, without changing the major things like looks / engine / tranny / interior style

Peterfrans 07-05-2004 11:42 AM

Stijn,

Why would you want to loose the HE's? It seems to me that there is not that much to be gained in the weight loss department. Also, in our climate a little heat is very welcome.

Very nice pics btw.

svandamme 07-05-2004 11:57 AM

i agree, the weight loss thing isn't the issue

but i do want a front oil cooler
and i definately do no want the external oil lines

other considerations
- i can close off the air hose from the engine > what the fan blows is used for cooling and cooling only
- them HE's , although nice and shiny , are a PITA if i wanna do something on the engine
- cleaner engine bay
- 2 steps less work for an engine drop
- the HE way of transferring heat to the front , ain't the most efficient way, a radiator should be just as efficient , if not more ( i can get a cable from the heater lever to the heating radiator, maye put a valve in there to bypass it when not needed)


it's not a final plan , and won't happen in the first 6 months
but i'm pretty convinced that it would work and suit my purpose

Peterfrans 07-05-2004 12:13 PM

I have a front cooler and internal oil lines, but this was standard on a 1970S. For the T I have bought the external oil lines, not the most elegant way of plumbing it, but better than nothing.

You could probably get some kind of setup from a water cooled car, they us a seperate radiator in most cases. Interesting job though of getting it all connected and working.

svandamme 07-05-2004 12:19 PM

were stock coolers with internal lines? didn't know about that.

i've been all over my car the last year , but haven't found any traces of internal lines anywhere, so i assumed all S'es had em on the outside like i've seen on so many pics...

i figure that hot engine oil should be hot enough to radiate plenty of heat up front for my cabin heat, and while the plumbing of the oil cooler lines are close to the smuglers box, the detour shouldn't be too long

svandamme 07-05-2004 12:23 PM

one of the things i'm not sure about :
what kind of cooler , front or fender

depending on that decision
where do i run the oil lines , both on the right
or one going to the front in the right air tube
one returning in the left tube

the big loop has the advantage of drying out the air tubes , that would be good for anti rust reasons...


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