"Warranty void" - part deaux

[Craig 930 RS]

Autoweek, July 5th, page 6:

"When it hits the track, all bets are off"
Bob Carlson, Porsche Cars North America spokesman.

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[Paulporsche]

I guess they really don't build them like they used to.

[JNadal]

If I was at the Porsche dealership and they told me that, Id ask them what would be the purpose of buying the car.

Really, if the cars are tested as well as Porsche claims, and they make them sooo reliable, then driving the car hard shouldnt void the warranty, unless you did something stupid like miss a shift or wreck the vehicle.

[vash]

a dealer told my boxter friend that honoring the warranties would be like giving away factory sponsorships. i assume it does away with the 4 years of free maintenance too?

cliff

[thrown_hammer]

Originally posted by Craig911
Autoweek, July 5th, page 6:

"When it hits the track, all bets are off"
Bob Carlson, Porsche Cars North America spokesman.

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That just about sums it up... Porsche is dead. The only reason they are in racing at all is for profit.

[911teo]

So u buy a GT3 and the minute it hits the track Porsche will not honor the warranty? This is a joke right? What is the point of a GT3 then?

No this in not possible

[Wil Ferch]

As much as I agree ( in principle) with the sentiments of the people responding to this thread...taking Carlson's words out of context is likewise a bit dangerous as to what Porsche is and was.

Regardless of whether the car is ( or is not) designed to withstand the rigors of track use....the simple fact is that no manufacturer would willingly wish to still be held liable for the many, many different kinds of failures that couild occur at a track. It would be very hard to separate stupid actions from design deficiencies....at least it would come to a disagreement phase before things get settled one way or the other.

In *this* context( again, as much I agree with the sentiments expressed here)...I think we're all being a bit unrealistic as well as being a bit unfair to what was said.

---Wil

[thrown_hammer]

Wil,
I agree they have to cover their butts. It was just a really dumb thing to say outloud.

[JNadal]

C'mon didnt you hear the news?
Porsche now caters to old men going through mid life crisises. They buy these cars to go "cruising"

Oh well all it means is that when people from my generation look into buying a used 2000 something porsche we wont have to worry about high miles or engine damage!

[JNadal]

Originally posted by Wil Ferch
In *this* context( again, as much I agree with the sentiments expressed here)...I think we're all being a bit unrealistic as well as being a bit unfair to what was said.

---Wil

I think what is "unfair" is that if on the data logger they see you revved the car into the high rev range for a long time, then you lose your warranty.

[jluetjen]

What is the point of a GT3 then?

Do you honestly think that Alex Job or Flying Lizard expect to take their cars back to a dealer if a bearing fails on the track? Why should a GT3 owner expect otherwise. It's not just a question of repairing the failed part, but all of the knock-on affects as well. So if a bearing fails resulting in the car hitting the wall at full trot and the driver being paralysed -- is Porsche responsible?

The very clear answer is -- not in any way form or fashion.

If you think it is or was otherwise, you're deluding yourself and living in a fantesy.

[911teo]

Maybe I am a little naif... but Alex Job and Flying Lizard are not doing the occasional DE. I don't expect Porsche to take it up when a privateer blows it at Daytona.
Also the GT3 Flying Lizard are buying are not the same you find on the dealer's floor, right? I think they are race spec (RS maybe?) GT3s. I m not trying to be a wise ass here... honestly.

I just think that either PAG only sells GT# RS with no warranty (as you said since the thing is raced whats the point of a factory warranty) or should back a GT3 for what it is intended to do.

[nein14-6]

At the Parade last week the question was asked directly to the president of Porsche cars north America and he said that dealerships will still honor warranty claims on autocross cars.

BTW the pic of the 996TT in the article was swiped by free press from an autocross we had here in Western Maryland.

[Tommy B]

most warranties cleary state "normal driving conditions" If you track you car and blow you motor or cook your brakes, or destroy your tranny i don't think the waranty should cover it.

on the other hand, if you track you car and a few days later you have problems with the power seats, that's a no brainer.

This topic is talked about all the time. It's kinda old. Most of the people(like me) that are debating have cars that haven't had a warranty for 20 years.

[Tommy B]

also, warranties are intended to work out the potential manufacturing problems that may occur.

they are not intended to give you the right to beat the hell out of the car at Porsche's expense.

[Dantilla]

I know a guy who bought one of the first Boxters, then fell in love with track driving. At 15,000 miles, about 10,000 of that on a track, the tranny went out.

No only was the tranny replaced under warranty, Porsche insisted on getting the blown one back to see why it failed. He was told "It's a Porsche. It better be able to stand up to track duty."

That was a 1997 Boxter. Not that long ago. Sad.

[Randy Webb]

Remember , they have to prove this in court - not you. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act was apssed to prevent abuses by manfs.

I'm not saying that their policy is an abuse, mind you.